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That fandom is just about the single most damning piece of evidence against the proposition of "do (drug) become better person" as an effortless consumption activity with no other steps.
Okay but in his defence have you ever tried DMT before?
I have. Joe Rogan sucks
I've tried a number of substances; I am not condemning the drugs as much as the "THIS DRUG WILL FIX EVERYTHING BROOOOO DON'T BE A (slur) BROOOOO" consumerbrain approach to personal problems.
*Checks "No" beside UlyssesT's name on my list of people that have done DMT*
Adds another mark to the "receiving the 'Joe Rogan Experience'" tally
dmt without theory just makes you into a new age hippie lib (aka neoconn)
you're telling me taking huge amounts of extremely potent psychadelics won't solve my problems?
shut up nerd
Let's check in and see how much it helps lanyard-wearing PMC Silicon Valley liberals.
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I hate this proposition because I feel it also comes from an extremely western and commodity-brained, colonial standpoint. No matter tons of indigenous and ancient peoples have/had ellaborate rituals with a collective cultural meaning and weight around taking any of their (often sacred) psychoactives, you just need show up at a chaman's home, slide him a 100 and say "one spiritual epiphany please", as if you were walking into a 7/11 and buying a stick of gum.
Even this thread has some "did you do DMT? No? You can't doubt DMT's cure-all power. Case closed."
takes in it.
Clearly Joe Rogan and much of his fandom didn't magically become loving inclusive enlightened people by way of DMT, or any of the other cure-alls that he pushes on his fandom, but that seems lost on the "just do DMT" people.
You're right in that it's not a miracle cure for brainworms but I really doubt most of Joe Rogan's fanbase actually took it. It's not really that easy to come by.
If it's not that easy to come by, that drive-by "DID YOU TAKE DMT BRO?" smugpost I received seems even more petty now.
Uh ok sure, not sure why you're so hostile about this tho, it does actually help some people.
I never said it couldn't.
My point is the reactive hostility I received just mentioning that it shouldn't be assumed to be an automatic cure-all or universal person improvement shortcut.