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Nobody here was excusing atrocities, but you're putting blame on people who are helpless and not just the enablers and supporters.
Nobody made Hamas do it, but on the other hand the Israeli government absolutely wants an enemy and therefore supported their growth, so BOTH sides are at fault and responsible for war crimes as they're both killing innocents including children in brutal ways. Anybody supporting either government is wrong, anybody supporting either attack is wrong, it is just the innocent civilians on both sides who should be supported.
You're attacking the wrong people and the wrong things for the wrong reasons. Look at why the conflict exists in the first place and fight the reasons for why it continues instead.
People here are excusing atrocities all the time. "Israel made them do it and Israelis are colonizers who should just leave", "Palestinians are not Hamas, it's actually Israel who created Hamas" is the common theme of the supporters here.
A reason for the conflict regularly ignored by people on Lemmy is that Hamas and many Palestinians and many other Muslim groups are anti-semitic. They also ignore that the people in Israel aren't colonizers or invaders.
Most Palestinians have no interest in sharing the place with Israelis because most of Israelis are Jews. They are celebrating the violence because of it. And they certainly won't stop killing and attacking if Israel would stop doing it.
If you read up about it, and not only the one-sided Palestinian blogs and propaganda, you can easily see that Palestinians aren't better than Israelis. Actually they are worse since Israel tried to allow Palestinians in their country as citizens with voting rights etc. multiple times, something a Palestine would certainly not. But since Palestinians were the side that lost and got victimised and now oppressed, people jump to ignore the aspects they find uncomfortable for their headcanon.
They are ignoring these and other historic and current dynamics because otherwise Palestinians would be less perfect victims.
It would make the situation more complicated than a black and white issue. And people hate that. Almost like they can only support Palestinians when Israelis are evil.
I see you haven't read about the history of how the Israeli government deliberately choose to create that situation bet deliberate cruelty and by undermining the party which wanted peace