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Poll Majority blames gov’t for Hamas massacre says Netanyahu must resign (www.jpost.com)
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An overwhelming majority of 86% of respondents, including 79% of coalition supporters, said the surprise attack from Gaza is a failure of the country's leadership.

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[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder if they think it's just the intelligence failure, or the enabling and supporting of Hamas that they did in order to sabotage the two state solution by pitting them against Fatah and the PA?

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Both. People would do well to read Hareetz, Israel's newspaper of record, which is also available in English.

It's hard to accuse it of being anti-semitic. Reading Israeli perspectives, also demolishes the argument that all Israelis don't care about Palestinian suffering or unconditionally support what comes next.

These are some of the opinion pieces they have on their site now:

These were human beings whom Israel dispossessed and expelled, whom it conquered again in their land of refuge and then turned into animals in a cage. They’ve experienced indiscriminate bombardments before, but now the worst of all is ahead of them. Israel has already announced that all the restraints it supposedly used in previous attacks will be lifted this time. Yes, hundreds of Gazans committed atrocious crimes, an outgrowth of 17 years of blockade and 75 years of suffering, with a bloody past and no present or future. But not all of a Gaza is to blame.

This:

Consequently, this needs to be said: Israel has held millions of people under a brutal blockade for more than 15 years with the support of the entire Western world. That is inhumane and inconceivable, and every solution to this bloody conflict ultimately includes respecting the rights of all people, both in Gaza and Sderot, to live with security and human dignity. And that begins with respecting the most basic rules as set down in the international laws of war, which are designed to reduce the harm to civilians.

Or this:

Ironically, those who cheer Hamas's deeds, believing they're advancing the Palestinian agenda, are inadvertently supporting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's long-term strategy: the existence of Hamas ensures there will be no Palestinian state. More so, it eliminates any chance of dialogue, especially with Palestinians and Israelis already committed to end the occupation.

[–] notapantsday@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, that was a very good read. It would be interesting to know how many people in Israel share these views, because from far away it seems like everyone is onboard with causing even more suffering and bloodshed as an act of revenge.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wonder where that comes from. Hmmmm perhaps because Hamas which are supported by many Palestinians, are openly anti-semitic and want Palestine to be a "pure Muslim" country "cleansed" from all Jews?

[–] tuxtey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing, it is appreciated

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm curious, do they have an arabic language edition too? I feel like that could be a good bridge building tool if so.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can't just be an intelligence failure to have lower security on the Gaza border on the 50th anniversary - down to the same holy day - of the last time Palestinian forces attacked Israel.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

%100 was a setup. They learned from the USA, know about the attack, let it happen, and then use it as political ammo to get the war you want.