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“They really did screw Bernie”: Here's what 2016 can teach Democrats today
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I get downvoted every time I call out establishment liberal dems for things like backtracking on trans rights, etc, in order to entice conservative voters, who will probably never vote for them, based on their so-called effective campaign platform of “Orange man bad,” without any message of changing material conditions for citizens.
Dems willing to compromise in order to get elected and maintain their seats will absolutely join with GOP on issues like trans rights. I don’t know how the “vote blue line” gaslighters can’t comprehend this.
The reason the hold so much responsibility in this is they’re supposed to be the buffer against crazy alt-right fascism, but so many capitulate to it, like Hakeem Jeffries. They should be the ones fighting things like genocide in Gaza. Instead, they take the same AIPAC money, when they could be championing human rights and trying to pull anti-Zionist GOPs towards their direction, not the other way around.
Case in point: Reagancrats and Clinton. Liberal Dems don’t stand up for workers, they just go with the zeitgeist of the times. Because they inside trade and take bribes from special interests, too. They are not pro-worker or pro-social justice, they are pro-status quo.
I believe in voting. Vote! Don’t sit at home. Vote for candidates who are truly leftists and pro-worker and pro-human rights.
What you people don’t understand is that we are at a point now where “voting blue” is a life-or-death vote against fascism. We are WAY past your little purity tests. We are fighting for our lives.
In 2024 when the Russia psyops had all the kids crying gEnOciDE! we lost. And every excuse the non-voting and 3rd party morons had boiled down to- “well, the candidate didn’t jump though my every hoop and meet my demands perfectly, so I stayed home/voted for a loser”.
To simplify what I’m trying to say, if you have cancer- YOU TAKE THE CHEMO! You take the chemo, you get sick, then you hopefully get better and then you beat cancer.
You don’t pass on it just because it will make you sick and you don’t happen to like the idea that your hair will fall out.
You take the chemo so you have a chance to live. End of story.
What you are all doing is essentially fucking over everyone else because your entitlement affords you the luxury of taking a seat when others need you to stand up for them.
(If you voted, then this isn’t entirely about you personally, just those with the ideology that good is the opposite of perfect)
they absolutely do, what they're wary of is the myriad of other issues that can also be much, much worse under the GOP. Exhibit 1, DJT. Sure go hard at primaries AND keep calling those Dems out but... you're choosing to hurt everyone else as well by not voting.
vote in the damn primaries first!
100%. Primaries are the most important, way more important than the general elections.
Ppl also forget local elections
They're probably trying to entice their own centrists and not MAGA.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/08/11/most-americans-are-uncomfortable-with-transgender-athletes-on-sports-teams-that-dont-match-their-birth-sex/
This stupid ass obsession with sports permeates everything in American culture in stupefying ways.
Especially when no one in the US pays any attention to women’s sports. All of a sudden, it becomes a big issue when scapegoats are needed to perpetuate the cultural war. 😂
I don’t understand how people devote so much time to staring at sports games on a TV, when you could be enriching your life with family, hobbies or constructive things like meal prepping on Sundays, so one doesn’t have to shove expensive convenience junk from Mondelez, Nestle and Monsanto in their mouths during the week.
Hey! Queer women pay attention to women's sports! That's not no one!
"Uncomfortable" does not mean "is an important voting issue". There are policy questions that would affect people's lives that have much greater support in left-inclined voters that get disregarded because "people only care about kitchen table issues".
Republicans care about this because there's a constant culture war being pushed by their propaganda to distract from everything else being unpopular and it's all they have left. The guy who leans Democratic and is uncomfortable has other things that matter to him. When it comes to voting and vibes, most Republicans probably do too.