hoppeduponcoffee

Vegan Worcestershire exists.

It’s almost like our country was predicated on having the “liberty” to engage in cronyism and oligarchy.

Yes, let’s also pump them full of methamphetamine and we’ll create good little Sturmtruppens to do the füeher’s bidding.

Dem Socialists? Oh, you mean actual progressives who are doing their job to represent the interests in f the people, instead of the ultra-powerful and wealthy?

Sure, I’m about to die. I don’t care I’m screwing over the future of humanity, as long as I die rich.

Typically, if someone were asked to prove they were alive and well, there’d be far more effort to do so than we’re seeing.

It’s been the red scare ever since the reactionaries stopped New Deal progressivism in the 1950s. If that didn’t happened, we would’ve kept pace with the rest of the world.

What a fantastic way to inspire a socialist revolt as a reaction to oppression.

These people are so thirsty for a civil war. Personally, I’d rather just see the union fracture apart. Let these buttwads have their backwards-ass fascist states, while leaving the rest of us out of it.

Becoming plant-based from an environmental perspective doesn’t work, because you’re still free to exploit animals, just to lesser degree.

Let’s say everyone goes 75% plant based. That would indeed reduce the demand and supply 75%. A 75% reduction in environmental impact, great from a consequentialist perspective.

But in a capitalist world, a shrinking supply means a higher cost, resulting people protesting and demanding government intervention towards the cost and unavailability of meat, which would result in backtracking to appease people.

Without everyone becoming vegan and rejecting animal exploitation on ethical grounds, reducitarianism doesn’t work if your goal is to stop the acceleration of climate change. Everyone would need to go 0% consumption of animal products and completely negate all supply and demand.

Veganism is the solution, but the motivation must be from a staunch moral position, or else people will waffle on their commitment.

Im sure you are right about that. I don’t think any argument I could present would convince you otherwise. I just hope you are happy, and if you haven’t found happiness, that you find it.

Great insight. The primary reason people shy away from veganism is because they’re afraid eating a plant-based diet is “gross.” I get frustrated when plant-based products on store shelves are subpar, or when restaurants serve plant-based food that doesn’t appeal to nonvegans. The way to people’s hearts is through their stomachs.