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[–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 66 points 5 days ago (37 children)

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess I was wrong.

So… this only makes me more confused, though. He shuts down Macklemore because he doesn’t want Macklemore saying “Free Palestine” in his stadium, and then turns around and supports Palestinian causes?

Christ, I must be missing something here.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 90 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Boils down to Robert Kraft did not expect the PR shit show that started because he kicked Macklemore out. This blew up super fucking fast and well outside of the control of what they expected. Ed Sheeran is scrambling too.

This looks really bad. Even Jesse Walters from Fox News is like, "he kicked him out for saying free Palestine?" He then went on to defend Robert Kraft, claiming he can kick him out for whatever reason, but even he seemed incredulous about the reason that Macklemore was kicked out.

Robert Kraft does not want this to continue to blow up because if every fucking artist besides a few of them suddenly start refusing to go to his stadium, that's gonna look bad. This gives him an out, saying, well, I donated two million dollars after the fact So it doesn't look like he's directly supporting genocide.

It's obvious to those of us who pay attention, but to anybody who's not familiar with Robert Kraft, this potentially creates an out. It all about the pr message.

[–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It would seem that your analysis is the correct one.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it basically boils down to PR and Robert Kraft trying to control the message. I'm not sure why he's trying to control the message. He's not giving a shit about it before, given how open he is about supporting Israel and how much money he's donated to Israel before But this clearly rattled him.

I speculated about the artist boycott, but I mean, it could also boil down to people just boycotting him for not allowing free speech, which is a lightning rod issue in the United States.

Or maybe it just spiraled so fast out of control that it just spooked him. Ultimately, $2 million dollars for him is a chump change. Hard to know at this point, unfortunately.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 10 points 5 days ago

I’m not sure why he’s trying to control the message. He’s not giving a shit about it before, given how open he is about supporting Israel and how much money he’s donated to Israel before But this clearly rattled him.

But now bad things are happening to him so they matter.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (3 children)

One of the last lines of the article

Kraft later confirmed he didn't want Macklemore performing at Gillette, which Kraft owns ... accusing the rapper of crossing the line with antisemitic rhetoric and imagery.

I find it hard to believe that Maklemore uses antisemitic rhetoric and imagery (I'm willing to change this opinion with evidence). I would believe he uses Anti-Israeli rhetoric and imagery.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 19 points 5 days ago

Good! This leaves MORE Room for Noted Jew Lover Kanye West to play "Heil Hitler" at Kraft's stadiums AGAIN!

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I just found this today. Still not sure what to make of the costume, but Macklemore claims he didn’t intend for it to look like a Jewish caricature

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's exactly what he looks like. I could see this being viewed as antisemitic. I do still wonder what the retoric was

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's almost definitely antisemitic, but I suspect rather than being actual hatred, it was probably just an antisemitic joke in poor taste, and more importantly, he apologized for it in... 2014.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

2014! I thought that was from the current tour. People born that year will be teenagers next year. Robert Kraft associates with people who would fuck those teenagers.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

From what I read, he was supposedly trying to dress up in a costume inspired by Humpty Hump (of Humpty Dance fame) and wasn't aware enough at the time to realize how fucked up it came across.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

the article says

He explained that he randomly chose the elements of the outfit so that he could disguise himself and move freely around during the secret show.

so to make nobody recognize him. the facial features do seem like things you’d grab off the closet in a quick decision to look the most drastically different easily. the rest of the outfit, though? … ooof. i’m willing to trust him if there’s nothing else

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Yes, all I'm saying is the inspiration was supposedly Humpty Hump, a rapper who famously disguises himself with a big fake nose. It seems totally plausible that he was going for that look without realizing it came across wrong.

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It's racist because he didn't do blackface.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Macklemore is not the best messenger on this, but who is without sin?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I definitely wore a Halloween costume In high school I regret. I was a Sultan; thank God I didn’t try to bronze my skin…

[–] 5765313496@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Now you've got "Problematic" by Bo Burnham stuck in my head.

[–] teslekova@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

I wrapped a sheet around myself and called myself the Ayatollah and did a bad Arabic accent. In Australia in the 90s. Still bugs me that I was not only being racist, but completely ignorant of the Iranian people.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Kraft it's deeply pro Isreal and supports organizations directly that have stated they define antisemitism as any criticism of Isreal. you don't like the yearly budget Isreal passes on Library maintenance? antisemitism. You think Isreal needs to secure better water use rights for a particular Israeli city? antisemitism. better not.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

His PR team specifically chose the words "support the region" and ended the sentence with "I have supported efforts that create opportunity for Palestinians and have brought young Palestinians and Israelis together to build businesses, create jobs"

For example, financing bulldozing a Palestinian village, building an illegal settlement of terrorists, then hiring some Palestinians for pennies to clean the gardens, can technically match the statement

The Israeli Gaza "humanitarian" foundation let thousands of people die of starvation, also. Any donation to the ghf technically counted as Palestine aid, but it's like if during WW2 there was a fundraising for food in Auschwitz

[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Youre missing the fact that 1 million isnt even .01% of his wealth he gave away pennies

[–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I did not miss that, no.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's just PR bro. Trying to save face after the fact.

That 1 million (from each) will be tax deductible and not cost either of them anything (as long as they both earn at least a million this year, which they will).

It's also only a limited number of charities that are official enough to take such a sum, meaning the money will get shunted through approved US channels (so that it stays out of the hands of "Hamas" or whatever the US and Israel see as Hamas today).

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

$2 million for a gesture probably doesn't matter much to him.

Especially when his actions point to him being a Zionist, the question becomes how much money has Kraft spent furthering Zionist ideals in comparison? Does it make $2 million USD look like a joke?

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