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[–] Micromot@piefed.social 86 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

They are just like rainbow capitalism. They don't improve the rights of anyone but they are an indicator of the acceptance.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 11 points 1 hour ago

Exactly. People are all "TaRgEt jUsT waNtS yOuR mOnEy."

Well, yeah, but also it just shows an overall acceptance. It makes people more at ease in general. It lets non queer people also feel more open to showing support. It's about the overall mindset of society.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 21 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Right? Easy to overstate the value of it as we see now, but it sure was nice being a demographic worth pandering to, especially when that meant that the homophobes weren't worth appeasing.

[–] Micromot@piefed.social 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It was a good feeling but always had the aftertaste of instantly disappearing when the political wind changes. We will sadly never truly be free under capitalism

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Historically speaking, under communism... Oh no. Oh no

[–] Micromot@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Depends on what time you look at. In the starting years of the USSR and DDR gay, trans and womens rights were very good in comparison to western states at the time. It started getting worse when the economic problems accumulated due to war and outside pressure.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

Sure. My point isn't communism bad, it's that the idea isn't capitalism "causing" LGBT oppression and communism is sunshine and rainbow flags.

Like when atheists bitch about how "imagine no religion" would make everything great, and neglect to explain how they would get there. Like when the atheist Khamer rouge killed 50,000+ religious people in the name of atheism.

Folks, turns out it's authoritarianism that causes oppression of civil liberties, not economic systems.