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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

It’s true though. Quit bullshitting him and let him know the truth. I mean, why beat around the bush when this is the thing you believe? Perhaps Francis personally doesn’t believe it, but the Vatican has reaffirmed that atheists don’t go to heaven and Francis doesn’t step out of line when the church corrects him. How is it any different than a generic corporate response or Secretary of State response?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Official belief is that they can't say who's in hell anyway, and one of the 3 theological virtues in Catholicism is the hope that everyone is saved from hell. So it wasn't out of character to do a little bit of wishful thinking in this situation.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

John Paul 2, in a true counterreformation moment, confirmed that there is no salvation outside catholic church in the declaration Dominus Iesus in year 2000. This means not only atheists and non-christians but non-roman catholic christians too. Eat that heretics.

Of course this was so shockingly backwards move to 1600's, especially in light of the loudly propagandised "ecumenism" of JP2, that everyone including the offcial author (later pope Benedict XVI) completely ignored it, but it was still official document on the matter of faith by pope who is infallible in the matters of faith, so here they are.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

infallible in the matters of faith

certain conditions need to be met for this but yeah

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because you're talking to a child about his dead father and because the "truth" literally doesn't matter and it's all just vibes anyway.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

So what? These people believe god will take care of everything. If that’s true then there should be harm in letting him know the truth

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it's all bullshit anyway, why not be nice about it?

Besides, let he without sin cast the first stone. Who are you to decide who gets mercy?

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Besides, let he without sin cast the first stone. Who are you to decide who gets mercy?

can't sin if sin is a fake category the-more-you-know

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

See my first sentence