You may have heard of the Zizians. Who briefly became the subject of some notoriety because their leader, who had objected to the sex part of the AI safety sex cult, went off to start her own vegan cult. Which then committed a couple of murders

[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

Now it's all clicking for me!

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The whole story smells a bit like a transphobic satanic-panic so I wouldn't go all in on cult angle. And it's not clear that they commited murders, they attacked their landlord and the landlord shot and killed two of them, which for some weird legal reason is blamed on them.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, let me put it this way then: They rejected the sex part of the sex cult, aybe even the cult part too, and then spent a while messing around trying to get a compound going, people were shot, and weird shit was posted on the internet and some definitely really worrying social dynamics were involved

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I thought they killed a border crossing guard?

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Three murders so far afaik:

first the landlord by a group on the west coast, he had a gun and was threatening all of these trans kids with eviction

then on the east coast one or more parent(s) of one of the zizians, this person was uninvolved with the first murder and allegedly killed their own parent(s)

and a third group unrelated to the previous two incidents, who were near the Canadian border in the NE, pulled over by border patrol, and ended up killing the guard because one of these zizians was a foreigner on expired tourist visa and I guess they panicked

The scenarios have logical and to me obviously unrelated motives, and didn't have much overlap of involved parties. Seems like a bunch of traumatized trans kids who were reacting poorly to what they truly felt were life and death situations, none of which have any clear connection to their philosophical or ideological fixations

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Maybe, IDK. I just know that there was also a bunch of legal fuckery involved.

And that Ziz is responsible for the deaths seems just entirely constructed to me.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

they did

and they killed the landlord