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I think I get what you're saying. Those are the talks where the conversation leads you thinking about something you never thought before, or thinking about it in a whole new way.
You want to have one of those conversations because the sensation of discovery feels good. It's like a workout for your brain and you feel pumped up and stronger afterwards!
The problem is, you can't really force it. Even if you go down the topics that usually get you there, you're just regurgitating things that have already been said.
You just have to have lots of conversations with lots of different people and eventually you'll fall into a discussion that really sucks you in and works those neurons.
I totally get it and am willing to have some exploratory discussions with anyone who's interested!
or just read a book or listen to a lecture that requires you have to process the material. much easier to discover stuff this way than try to find the 1/1000 people who will give it to you in conversation.