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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’s either from the context or a deliberately chosen chat style, I presume.

One thing that isn’t emphasized enough about the ChatGPT app is that it's “far” from the LLM. There’s a ton of stuff wrapping around it and getting injected into the context, tons of tracking and personalization and engagement maximization.

And the Chat models are finetuned to oblivion. They are deep fried.

It gives me creepy Facebook vibes.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's definitely deliberately chosen. There's no way it'd randomly just go into Reddit speak; that's not how an LLM like this worse; it maintains that generic, stale toast tone unless you ask it otherwise.

Which also makes me question what the prompts before this were and makes me assume this is faked. Like "pretend to be shocked" faked.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

More than a few people tune ChatGPT to have a personalized tone in this vein. This here is a mild case.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's not a pure LLM though. It's ChatGPT. That's what I'm saying; users have no idea what else is in the context, and it could easily be something that pushes it to "Reddit speak."

When I've seen my parents use it, it brings up things it could not possibly know from the current conversation, so its definitely inserting previous context at the very least.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The mistake here is thinking it would "randomly" go into Reddit speak. There's a lot random about AI but not all of it is, and both it and the systems built on top of it are far more sophisticated than you're giving them credit for.

The prompts and context being invisibly sent by the app to shape its interpretation and its response are exactly what "ask it otherwise", and unless you know exactly what you're doing (and probably are using an actual open source, open principles frontend) you'll never know exactly what your tooling is actually telling the LLM itself. That's obfuscated behind layers of actual software interpreting and analyzing everything you type. We've had software doing stuff like that since before LLMs were a thing and it's only gotten more advanced now that everyone on the planet is using "chat" to talk to LLMs. If you think what you type into the chat goes directly into an LLM that couldn't be further from the truth. It's massaged and decorated and marked up and embedded into a whole data package the LLM gets provided behind the scenes, and even then there are additional shaping layers built into the model itself to further transform what it's receiving. There's no guarantee you're even using the exact same model as someone else, even if they both say 'GPT-5' there's no proof and no reason to believe you're not potentially getting 'GPT-5-Lemmyuser' or even 'GPT-5-TheTechnician27' behind the scenes. Even if it's only GPT-5 with a few extra layers tacked on, how would you know the difference... and they're certainly not going to tell you.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You launched into an entire spiel about "randomly" when I clearly meant it in the colloquial sense of "out of nowhere" – that in 2026, it's not going to inexplicably break tone so heavily.

[Input is] massaged and decorated and marked up and embedded

I understand how tokenization etc. works. I've taken multiple machine learning courses. That has nothing to do with the fact that, again, "I'd call the police 😂" ain't happening unless you intentionally pull it away from its preset tone. Having not used ChatGPT etc. for myself but seeing thousands of other people use it, I feel pretty confident in that. This is especially true because the RAM crisis has been going on for a long enough time now that this response is clearly faked; this isn't new information a model like ChatGPT could be "surprised" by (using "surprised" in scare quotes because now I'm afraid you'll launch into another spiel if I don't disclaim that ChatGPT isn't literally capable of surprise in the sense of an emotion).

Also, please break up your paragraphs. I'm bad about this sometimes too.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I appreciate the respectful feedback. I didn't mean to hit you with a wall of text and I shouldn't have personalized it at you so much, I just think it's important educational information that more people need to understand about the way these chatbots work. They're designed to be manipulative because they're implemented by these highly manipulative companies.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You guys are working with 5 year old info on llms now. Sounding like grandma over here “what’s this technology you kids are using…”

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

What? Five years ago, commercial LLMs were breaking tone left and right. There was an entire controversy around them getting disproportionately hostile, clingy, etc. out of nowhere.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

There’s no way it’d randomly just go into Reddit speak; that’s not how an LLM like this works: it maintains that generic, stale toast tone unless you ask it otherwise.

An LLM will respond in whatever way it's been tuned to, if Sam Altman wants it to sound like a redditor, it'll sound like a redditor.

It's like how Grok responds in the most cringe unfunny way possible, it's been finetuned to respond like Elon Musk.