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A lot of chuds seem to believe the phrase "toxic masculinity" is referring to the entire concept itself as toxic rather than certain manifestations of masculinity. Or maybe they disagree that it can ever be toxic. Whatever who cares
Certainly true of the more potato-brained of the hogs. I'm going to sound like an asshole for saying this but half of the working class are really really really not think-ey people, like seriously they barely think at all during their days. A lot of western marxism has this issue of coming from suburbia and well educated groups of people and they very naively (in a good way) think everyone thinks like them. This however is not the experience I have seen for myself in the bottom of society where people are guided far more by raw emotion and gliding through their days than by any real introspection, rationalisation or logical decision making. I love and sympathise with many of these people deeply but they are raw to put it nicely. There is a reason a vanguard is needed.
Concepts like toxic masculinity are too high, they're good arguments for the college educated and suburbanites but they do not reach many of the lower levels of the working class. This isn't helped by a kneejerk resistance to criticism that they have.
A lot of the working class in Russia were not think-ey people either. This is why I really study Lenin in regards to how he got to revolution.
Right we have like, 2 levels that matter. One level is the organisers and one level is the average population. The organisers need to be at the very very highest level of theory while what is given to the working population needs to appropriately guide them for their level.
The right wing is currently much better at this than the left wing.
Yes I read Lenin. I believe in the vanguard party. I just have high social anxiety which prevents me from really meeting people a lot, so I make up for that by reading theory.
Don't think about it to hard. They haven't.
They only think about being hard
They haven't actually read any feminist theory, so it is pointless to argue feminist points with them.
They take these concept and assume they are stupid based on the name alone, while refusing to hear any explanations. R*pe culture, wage gap, patriarchy, many such cases. There is no point trying to explain it to them
You've just made me realize so many things. That makes too much sense. These people are opposed to things based on the name alone and don't care to learn what things actually mean. One time I was arguing with a chud who was convinced the company FedEx is government owned because it had federal in the name.
I remember there was this old dismissive phrase that feminists online liked to use and which made everyone angry - "it is not my job to educate you". I used to think this was a wrong approach, that you do actually need to actively educate people. But now I fully understand why they were saying it. There is no point in arguing with a literal C.H.U.D - a sub-sapient goblin-like creature who just crawled out of the sewer 10 seconds ago, and is now demanding you explain basic shit to it.
They like the toxic kinds.
i have yet to see anything that supposedly differentiates gendered behavior that isn't toxic and/or bioessentialism.
Cis people never have anything interesting to say about gender in the first place, but you somehow manage to routinely be a transmisogynist in a completely failed attempt to be woke. It's been almost 20 years since Julia Serrano wrote Whipping Girl and you still barge in here with a kindergarten understanding of gender abolition that tells me "just be yourself, you do not need to be recognized in your gender identity, that's actually backwards and opressive, never mind that i am doing literally nothing to abolsih gender myself and only use the concept to mansplain gender to a site full of trans people."