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My point is that what you’re saying in these comments has little basis in reality.
“It’s not that hard” is a painfully ignorant stance to take.
Are you deliberately moving the goalposts or just forgetting the context?
“A job” is not the standard.
No shit. It’s a hell of a lot bigger group than just “the illiterate “ though.
Ah so you’re back to no basis in reality. Got it.
Usually proofs require… well.. something resembling proof.
Which simple words in the English language do you believe I don’t understand?
Also, remind me what it is that you’ve proved?
It sure as shit isn’t anything about jobs, which this thread is about.
Do you not know what illiterate means?
But it IS hard to find a job that is good for people that pays a livable wage.
You didn’t explain anything with this last post. You simply failed to summarize it accurately.
This, in response to direct questions, which you failed to answer.
Who’s illiterate again?
Also, your comment 4 is a brain dead stupid take that ignores reality, even in your summarized form. It’s my whole point, which you’d rather pretend I’m stupid than address.
Fuck you’re stupid.
If you’re just going to ignore direct questions and restate bullshit as fact, it’s hard to avoid ad hominem.
Yeah this guy is really weird. If they're just lonely there really need to find another way to interact with people
At this point, I’m just curious how long this particular troll will stay on the comment thread.
I think they may actually believe themselves, this is going beyond normal trolling.
I mean I stopped responding so they started double replying. Very odd
Could well be!
I may be giving them too much credit for being self aware.
Here’s 2
Do you think it’s “not that hard” to get a nursing degree or a teaching credential?
Do you think 50k$/year pre tax, the average starting salary for a teacher, is a livable wage?
EDIT: Sorry I missed your edit, but yeah, any of those questions too.
Also, apologies for getting back on topic. You were really roastin me good there.
EDIT2: and to be fair, you did address the moving the goalposts question. You just answered it with bullshit.
So to be clear you “know what illiterate means” and you’re gonna double down on how you think I’m illiterate?
Despite all the evidence to the contrary?
It was not a rhetorical question. You either don’t know the definition, you are lying when you continue to press on it, or you’re a fucking idiot.
Wow ok then. Didn’t realize you knew so much about most people. Thanks for the evidence.
Man, you just fuckin love irony/projection huh?
I don’t. Do you think that either of these would be necessary for it to be a non living wage? Do you think all people that work for minimum wage die or live on the street? Or do you think that minimum wage is a living wage?
Oops my bad. What was the thing I’m not getting?
Sorry so it was a joke or not?
Or is this a joke now?
I really did. Thanks for answering the question both the first time, and the second time when you copy/pasted it.
Weird thing to do for questions you thought to be rhetorical.
I guess I could have been nicer when replying to your ignorant comment.
This is not an example of moving the goal posts. This was a clear and obvious example of showing you how bad your argument was.
Specifically, it’s a logical fallacy called denying the antecedent.
Eg if A then B
DOES NOT imply that
If NOT A then NOT B
In many many parts of the us, this is simply not a living wage. It’s borderline poverty.
https://livingwage.mit.edu/
You did. You also doubled down yet again with “none that I’ve seen”. Am I misreading that or was this another hilarious “joke?”
There was and is. The comment were referring to is the one where you said “it’s not that hard” right?
That ignorant as fuck comment?
So to be clear, everybody who is not dead or homeless is making a living wage? Is that your argument?
This appears to be your standard. Not mine.
If I am misconstruing your standard, what is your standard?
Mine is that they should be able to afford reasonable shelter and food without having to find roommates or other external sources of income.
That is what I used, to attack your argument, yes.
Why do you keep generalizing it to “all”? Where did “all” come into the conversation?
https://www.erstrategies.org/news/average-teacher-salary-is-below-the-living-wage-in-half-the-country/
Lmfao. Got me there! Was that pretty confusing for you without the apostrophe?
I have, but I’ll say it again.
It’s ignorant because the jobs that give back to humanity and pay a livable wage are hard to get. You just choose to believe that they are not.
You also seem to be willfully ignorant of what a livable wage means.
If this is what you were trying to do, you did a shit job. I even deconstructed it for you.
This isn’t moving the goal posts. This is the literal definition of a livable wage.
What is your definition?
Loads of reasons, but most relevant here is that you can make some very misleading but technically true statements when you do so.
For example:
Not all homeless people are poor.
Not all doors can open.
Technically true, but when we’re talking about the typical case, highlighting that there are exceptions is pointless.
You dont? I’m trying to argue that many many teachers don’t get paid a living wage.
Are you illiterate or something?
It is though. The fact that these jobs don’t exist, or are hard to get, is what this entire conversation is about. That, and you trying to derail it to shit on me.
The premise was that the jobs that are both fulfilling and pay decently were hard to get. And they are.
Assertion fallacy.
Alright man. You win.
Your troll powers are too much for me.
QED
QED
QED
QED
QED
QED
QED
Projection.
Lmao. Classic non-troll response