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[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Explanation if any of our foreign cousins want it.

Tea, short for tea time.

In the South you used to (and still do) have the following three meals a day:

Breakfast, lunch, dinner.

In the North, however...

Breakfast, dinner, tea.

Both might tie the end of the day off with supper too. Brunch is for the jobless middle class and wandered into the conversation with yuppies in the 80s.

There's also a tea break, which is usually just a cup (or mug if you are a ruffian) of tea. Not to be confused with tea time, where you might reasonably expect to eat your dinner.

Then there's high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

I hope that clears things up.

[–] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope that clears things up.

Not really. You had me in the first half, tho.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Right? I'm clearly far too American to understand. I'm more confused than I was before.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait until you find out you can have pudding for pudding.

Edit: Since it's mean not to explain - pudding is another way to say desert.

[–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 1 points 22 hours ago

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

He's making things up and moved the goal posts of his claim several times when he got corrected.

Apparently, according to him, the terms 'afternoon tea' and 'high tea' have been informally switched in the UK, and apparently everyone knows this but it's not in the wikipedia artical because...

Second goal post move, he's apparently not talking about the British custom of tea here, but of tea in some other as yet un-named country.

Edit: Chat we've hit 3 goal post moves! I repeat, the third goal post has been moved. Our man isn't playing on any team now and has gone rogue on the pitch as apparently now everything he's said was all supposed to be just a flippant joke! Lmao.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Stop it mate. It's not making you any friends.

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 2 points 21 hours ago

Nor does spouting shit and doubling down with yet more shit when you're corrected.

Anyway, why would I want to be friends with you? That shit you spouted wasn't even funny bro.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Dinner, as the main meal, used to be closer to midday in agrarian times, with the evening meal being a light supper. Only the industrial revolution, with workers spending most of the working day in the workplace, changed this.

[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Where my family’s from, that naming convention is still used.

Breakfast - first meal of the day

Dinner - midday meal

Supper - evening meal

Lunch - a small snack with no specific time

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yep, and that industrial revolution is responsible for the N/S split in terms too, the factories of the north and all that.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Interestingly most Psych units I've worked (US) serve (roughly timed):

0800 - breakfast

  • along with a lightly caffeinated coffee or tea, the only caffeine routinely served

1200 - lunch

1700 - dinner

2000 - snack

  • usually prepackaged chips and crackers, sometimes cookies or ice cream. The long stay hospital gave the patients 25¢ for every group they attended and they could order nicer stuff from the staff member who made the weekly Walmart trip.
[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Then there’s high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

Wrong way round.

High tea is/was the working class term for an evening meal as it was had at the table, and it would usually include cooked meat.

Afternoon tea is the posh one in the afternoon with the cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interestingly, in Canada "high tea" is a fancy afternoon tea with little sandwiches and desserts. Often something you can book at posh hotels like Fairmonts.

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

I've seen places here mix them up too, it's not uncommon.

If you want to be a pedant or just find this sort of thing amusing, you could send the hotel restaurant a link to the wikipedia page.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What you've done there is confuse what I was describing as usage with historical context.

What you just said is like saying, "actually Gay really means just happy".

I mean, yes, it did, but now not so much.

And that's the difference between descriptive and prescriptive usage.

David Foster Wallace talks about it a fair bit in one of his essays. Prescriptive description of English usage being somewhat colonial and, to an extent, authoritarian as well as being particularly useless on the ground, so to speak.

So yeah, it was that way around, but try using it that way round now and see how far you get.

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ok, go edit the wikipedia article then if you're so sure of yourself.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Errr... That's not what I'm saying chief. I'm saying you are right, just that things have changed in usage.

The wiki article actually says that too.

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The wiki article actually says that too.

Can you quote the bit? I'm not seeing it. The only place anything similar is mentioned refers to it happening outside of the uk.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So it does mention that happening?

I didn't say it was happening in the UK, that's you again, chief.

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Bruh. You literally posted this: https://slrpnk.net/post/40256413/23312028

I'll copy it over too, just in case you also don't remember how to click on links, chief.

Explanation if any of our foreign cousins want it.

Tea, short for tea time.

In the South you used to (and still do) have the following three meals a day:

Breakfast, lunch, dinner.

In the North, however…

Breakfast, dinner, tea.

Both might tie the end of the day off with supper too. Brunch is for the jobless middle class and wandered into the conversation with yuppies in the 80s.

There’s also a tea break, which is usually just a cup (or mug if you are a ruffian) of tea. Not to be confused with tea time, where you might reasonably expect to eat your dinner.

Then there’s high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

I hope that clears things up.

So apparently all this here isn't you explaining about the British custom of 'tea' in a top comment on a thread about 'wacky things British people say', but is actually you just explaining about the 'tea' custom of a totally unrelated and as yet un-named country?...

Seriously, chief, this one is on you. You goofed up and didn't like being corrected, so you had this little tantrum trying to 'no, you' your way into still being right. Lmao. That's pathetic.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It was a cute, flippant comment... A joke, which you are so desperate to explain away in your "uhm aksherly" way as you try to win a conversation.

Well, I'll concede. Well done. You've won this round. Amazing.

You really are the best commenter on the internet. You won so hard!

Bet the chicks/dudes all think you are dead hot mate.

In years from now you'll be known as that one person on Lemmy who selectively quoted a Wikipedia article all the way to the cool bank and made a massive withdrawal.

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago

You said something wrong and were corrected and instead of taking it graciously, you doubled down and 'um akshually' three times now by moving the goal posts to desperatly cling on to being 'correct'

First time, apparently you know secret, but very common, but not so common it's on wikipedia, information about how British 'tea' culture terms have been transposed.

Second time, apparently no, you weren't even talking about the UK when you offered to explain british 'tea' culture to any foriengers here.

And now thirdly, oops it was all a joke! You didn't mean to claim any authority on the subject, it was just owo silly boy humour and I'm a big ugly meanie for calling you out.

Lmao, this was hella embarrassing to watch you go through.

Next time you're corrected, take it on the chin and don't double down with your bullshit. It only makes you look bad.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Ah Britain, sailing the high teas

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

There's also a tea break, which is usually just a cup (or mug if you are a ruffian) of tea.

Then there's high tea

What time do you usually have these?

Not to be confused with tea time, where you might reasonably expect to eat your dinner.

Are we talking South dinner or North dinner? .

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can I use the same mug to microwave all of my meals and tea? I promise to wipe the inside clean with the corner of my shirt.

[–] edwardbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

isn’t that how you are supposed to do it?

I somehow feel more informed and more confused at the same time.

[–] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not a north/south thing It's a working class/posho thing

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's a degree of that, but having lived all over the UK in the last 50 years, I can tell you it really is a North/South thing.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

can confirm, ex's Manc dad used to call it "Tea"

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This however also directly correlates with the historical rich/poor divide of the country.

The south has historically been richer, and this is still seen today even with the wealth accumilation that major cities have developed.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1370/

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

So, you agree with me. It is a North South thing?

[–] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 2 points 21 hours ago

It's a rich poor thing just as much as a north south thing.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In my house we use the Southern words during the week and the Northern version on Sundays, as in Sunday Dinner. Are we weird or does anyone else do that?

[–] dave@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

I’m from the north but live with southerners now. I grew up with dinner at noon (in school—dinner time, dinner-ladies).

We’ve now compromised on breakfast, lunch, tea, and on Sunday it’s a grey area between Sunday lunch and Sunday dinner depending on how much the schedule has slipped.

[–] theo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've always called it Sunday lunch, but do use a mush of dinner and tea. Dinner is just the biggest meal of the day, and may or may not be at tea time.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, that's definitely a thing too!

[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

10 o'clock tea and elevenses could both reasonably fit the bill here I feel.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can also have "breakfast, lunch and tea", or breakfast, dinner and dinner".

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure. Although I've never met anyone who uses breakfast dinner dinner.

Like, seriously, I can't imagine living like that.

The thing is, you might not know! A work colleague who calls their 12:30pm break their "dinner break", might separately go home and ask their partner "what should we have for dinner?".

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