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If you refund an indy game that you completed, you're a sociopath and there's no helping you. There isn't a structural system that's going to prevent that, some people are complete human garbage
It's not just that playing it enjoying it and then refunding it. It's the bragging about it on the fucking platform. Kind of asshole who does that. Well, that's gaming culture these days.
Literally the only reason I ever use YouTube other than KPop^* videos is very occasionally, if I'm bored, to watch Yahtzee's reviews. Last night I tuned in and a game I've not heard of before, Mixtape, got mentioned.
I thought "sounds curious, maybe I'll search for some full reviews of that to see what it's like"...
Ho. Lee. Hell.
There seems to be an entire genre on YouTube of absolutely godawful human beings just being fucking horrible in the guise of "game reviews". I mean, just really unpleasant people who within about 30 seconds you know would be domestic abusers if they ever met a girl. Is this the edge of the manosphere? It's absolutely revolting, whatever it is.
On the bright side, my "never, ever use YouTube for anything other than music videos" commitment is redoubled. I am so glad I'm old enough that this shit wasn't ubiquitous when I was impressionable.
[^*]: now KPop fandom is a whole other kind of mental; I take solace in mot being able to understand most of it. Ignorance is bliss.
I understand your desire to not use youtube, but you are missing out on The Spiffing Brit and Let’s Game it Out
If you aren't familiar, they are game breakers. Spiffing brit tends toward grand strategy games, and finds balance issues in them for a living best I can tell, and lets game it out griefs NPCs and systems to see how much abuse a game can take and what sort of tomfoolery he can manage. He tends toward very complex base building and mining type games.
Even if neither of those genres are your thing to play (they aren’t really mine), the channels are funny as hell and totally enjoyable.
I'll add that noclip (and their second channel noclip_2 are excellent for games journalism /documentaries.
And CallMeKevin has been doing wholesome video game content (and other things) for about 10 years.
I'll add "People Make Games" to the list. They make excellent critical documentaries about games and the people who make them and focus heavily on exploitation (of workers and players), frequently speaking out in favour of unions and minority representation.
Genuinely, thank you both for the suggestions. I'm just wary of falling down the YouTube rabbithole - I refuse to even log-in to the damned site - so if I start watching one of them it's going to have to be one I can remember the name of to search ;-).
(I thought Facebook was a bad idea from the get-go and never signed up, quit Instagram when FB bought them, quit Twotter when that asshole bought them... Lemmy and (sorry to say) Reddit are literally my only social media, and I question both of them fairly regularly. I do not claim to be normal ;-).)
The only reason I make an exception for Yahtzee is that having had a Steam account since Half-Life 2, Steam nevertheless remains comically bad at recommending games I'd be remotely interested in. Yahtzee's reviews I often don't agree with, but they do at least give me a hint of things I should check out.
Thats a super fair stance.
Consider looking into something like freetube (pc, there might also be apps for android that do the same, I don't know) Its logged in as an anonymous account so you can subscribe to stuff, but you can go into the settings and disable all the distractions, which is what they call everything thats not videos :) All I ever see is stuff from my subscribed channels, and if I go into the individual channels, the only thing that remains is the main videos feed, everything else (about, shorts, community, etc.) is disabled. I also have sponsor block enabled to auto-skip all promotional content including self-promo.
The algorithm is basically non-existent on freetube, in that your recommendations feed on the side of the video player is going to be mostly the same channel you are watching now, not just random shit. Maybe a few things thrown in that are closely related -like if they work with another channel a lot that other channel might come up- maybe some weird bug videos that aren't related at all, but those are all semi-sciency so that could be from my own watching, idk, I think the dev included some basic channels for the main feed so it wasn't empty, they don't really change and I’ve had other people mention seeing the exact same videos in their feed, years apart. I haven't seen much, if any, questionable or undesirable content without explicitly searching for it, though.
I find the distraction-free mode of using it to be very much like back in the day when you had to know what you wanted because there was no algorithm. Its not addictive or changing my opinions, imo, because I genuinely struggle to find new channels, what with no algorithm shoving shit down my throat, so I get what I’m looking for and nothing else. I check it a couple times a month, quickly run out of new content, get bored, and go do something else. Perhaps thats a workable option for you, as well :)
Thank you! I see it has a Linux version, so I will genuinely check that out - as soon as I get home. (As I write I'm waiting to board the first of 13 hours or so of flights - that's why I happened to be checking out gaming reviews yesterday ;-). I'm hoping the 7th Guest remake will keep me sane...)
It does! Both linux and windows versions work very well, though I discovered on ubuntu that you can install both an app store and a .deb version and they will be entirely separate instances. Wild! And confusing for noobs when updating!
Fly safe friend! That sounds miserable! Hopefully it is travel for a fun reason, at least.
This has always been a problem in the gaming community, but it's been especially rampant for the last decade or so since Steve Bannon identified gamers as a demographic (largely comprised of insecure teenage boys) that is particularly susceptible to fascist messaging and threw money into signal-boosting the worst of it, and a bunch of impressionable dumbfucks went along with it.
Personally I think the whole concept of gamers is stupid. You cannot have a demographic comprise predominantly of multiple different sections of a population, that's two broader of net to be casting. It's like saying that everyone who drives a car is a car enthusiast.
Anyone who plays games is a gamer but there's a huge range of ages, ethnicities, and nationalities. Besides someone who plays a lot of FPS is not the same as someone who predominantly plays grand strategy games or the Sims.
I kind of see it as there being people who play video games and "gamers". The latter being people for whom gaming is a serious hobby they care about a lot. Then there is a subset of gamers (sometimes referred to as "Gamers" with a capital G) that are also shitty people who take it personally if there is any kind of minority representation in video games and are the people who call you slurs in multiplayer games either for not being good enough at the game or or being better at the game than them (depending on whether you are on their team or playing against them).
What if I private the game? Am I also a sociopath for doing that?
Pirating indy games is crazy work, yes
Whether or not you want to make the moral distinction is a personal choice, but there is an economic distinction to be made as well.
Pirating a AAA game is fine because the studio is gonna make more games regardless.
Pirating an indie game is stupid though, if too many people do that then the developer won't be able to make enough money and won't make more games.
It should be easy enough to implement a refundability window based on either time-in-game or percentage completion (based on main story line, not side quests and diversions).
I mean if the game says 20 hours of gameplay but you complete it in an hour, that's false advertising and there should be an exception. But if a game says it takes an hour to complete and you complete it in an hour, there's no reason why you should be able to get that refunded.
Ok, sure. I think we're missing the forest for the trees here though
What's the forest in this case, and what are the trees?
Are the trees the individual cases of refund abuse, and the forest is the culture of unmitigated refund abuse?
Cause if so, I don't see how my comment was missing the forest for the trees...
In fact, yours was the one focused on individual cases and claiming there's no larger unifying structure that can be addressed...
Y’all standards are in the gutter. Completing a game does not mean you’re obligated to keep it.
If you did not have fun, or if the game does not meet your expectations for replayability, the responsible financial decision is to refund it.
Whether it’s indie or not is irrelevant. The world economy is shit, and, consumers or indie developers, everyone is struggling alike.
I understand you’re going after people with money to spare who maliciously do this, but that sentence is not it.
To whoever replied to my original comment (I don't understand how OC can call me a sociopath, block me, and make my comment disappear, but whatever) and likened playing a game and refunding it to refunding a meal you ate: you can't re-eat a meal but you can replay a game.
Most shmups you can beat in less than 30 minutes with continues, but the fun is replayability. If it's not replayable, it's not worth the money, unless it's appropriately priced.
I'm honestly tired of people who inhale 1-hour walking simulators on daily basis or have hundreds of games sitting in their library unplayed talking about game prices or value per dollar. Y'all suck at this. You better leave this discussion alone.
I think you somehow accidentally sent the same comment twice. The link to the comment where all the replies are is https://piefed.social/comment/12075820
I can't see that comment. I can see it on my profile, but when I click on it, I can't see anything, and I don't see the comments people left on it/can't reply to them.
Really odd design from Lemmy/Piefed, or maybe a bug, not sure.
Y'all standards are in the gutter. Completing a game does not mean you're obligated to keep it.
If you did not have fun, or if the game does not meet your expectations for replayability, the responsible financial decision is to refund it.
Whether it's indie or not is irrelevant. The world economy is shit, and, consumers or indie developers, everyone is struggling alike.
I understand you're going after people with money to spare who maliciously do this, but that sentence is not it.
You complaining about the economy while you NOT pay artists for their work is why you're a spciopath
Atp just pirate it and don't brag about refunding the game in the reviews of the game you just completed, liked and deemed enjoyable
"I finished my plate but I actually hated it so I demand a refund" is what you sound like.