this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2026
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What they wanted to do wasn’t “be alone in their bedroom”, it was “partake in the common social activity their peers are engaged in” (i.e hanging out online together). The part where they snuck away to my (or whatever) place happened rarely. A lot of the time they were just idk bored I suppose.
You could argue that hanging out online is worthless and a waste of time or whatever and in that case we’re both hypocrites for chatting away here.
I think it’s a reductive and bordering on some flavor of dehumanizing (kids are people with internality too) to look at the resentment people can feel towards their parents for this kind of thing (some even into adulthood mind you since it’s part of a larger parenting pattern) and go “ah well kids get upset over silly things they are too naive and stupid to be thankful for all the time”
Sorry if I’m putting words in your mouth, it is not my intent at all, and I’m trying not to characterize you stance as some boomer “pain builds character” thing because I don’t believe that’s where you’re coming from. It’s just that these lines of reasoning can stray dangerously close to that which doesn’t sit well with me.
Well that kind of comes down to like is the parent just denying them something or are they saying, "Don't do this thing, do this instead" Like for example I wouldn't want my kids spending a lot of time online. I'd let them do stuff online in moderation, I do it myself, but like the always online and connected norm of the day is very unhealthy imo. But I'd also so things like encourage them to sign up for martial arts classes and take them there or take them to do some other random in person thing they want to do with their friends. And when at home and the computers are all turned off I'd have other things for them to do too. I guess maybe I'm getting a bit old but I didn't even have a computer until I was 12 or so and I found ways to entertain myself just fine without an iPad. Books, toys, board games, pets to play with, a swing in the back yard, basketball hoop in the driveway, etc.
The idea that you are either online as much as you want or bored is a false dichotomy imo. The internet is imo extremely unhealthy to be on all the time. In the time between my last reply to you and now I was in my backyard digging up onions and went to the grocery store. Moderation is everything, but it is designed to be addictive. So you need to enforce strict limits with children to prevent them falling victim to addictive algorithms. That's not building character through pain. It's protecting your children.