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Define "work"
Surely there's proof of the Chinese government surveilling the rest of the world, more so than the 5 eyes countries, otherwise the original statement of the EU doing surveillance "China style" is just xenophobia.
I didn't mean "in relation to the Chinese government" when I mentioned "Chinese surveillance", I meant "surveillance of Chinese origin". If you check ad and tracking blocklists, by far most popular ones are either in the US or China. For me that's equally as bad as government sponsored. Although "government sponsored" usually implies "of big(ger) scale", it's not necessary.
There are more than just 5 eyes.
I am going to refrain from arguing, for I have taken note of your instance being "lemmy.ml". As much as I hate discriminating by instance, I have to do what I have to do.
I'm not arguing, nor am I looking for anecdotal evidence, lol. I'm asking you to prove your own statement correct.
Your position is that China isn't a surveillance state?
My position is that it's less of a surveillance state than America and the rest of the west. Prove me wrong.
Can you prove that the West is more of a surveillance state?
Snowden already did. Plus I didn't make the original claim that the EU is doing surveillance "China style". I'm fucking asking any one of you morons to back up your bullshit.
Snowden showed an extensive surveillance yes, no one is denying that. I also didn't make the claim. Im fucking asking you to back up your bullshit. I appreciate your race to the bottom mentality though. Keep at it
Thanks for adding nothing of value to the conversation 👍