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[–] nasezero@hexbear.net 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People using netanyahu as the sin-eater for all of the entity's crimes are complicit in genocide and belong in the barbara-pit

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There's plenty of blame to go around but Bibi really is punching above his weight class.

He's undermining the "peace talks" daily. Everytime there's something that could possibly be the first step to deescalating he puts out a statement that literally is just "we will kill whoever we want whenever we want, as is our right"

He's deffinitly not exactly boosting your average burgers opinion of isreal.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Let me entertain this line because I can begrudgingly accept that the genocide only activated a significant but narrow set of Americans. That makes me curious about Bibi's value over replacement player. In the post of a genocide, isn't the only wincon keeping America involved? It's basically doing intentional fouls at the end of a basketball game. Would a different coach just let the clock run out? No! That's how the game is played.

Genocidal leaders don't like peace and they need bodies for the grinder. Fascism is a death drive, after all. How could an ethnonationalist society do otherwise? How could you be Israel's leader and behave differently? Just be the leader and not try to undermine the peace talks?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How could you be Israel's leader and behave differently?

I would simply not do the whole genocide thing and instead start purging genociders, but that's just me and that would be pretty unelectable in Isn'treal.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

and that would be pretty unelectable in Isn'treal.

Yeah, I was sort of circling that idea. Sort of like an opposite world Epicurean paradox.

If the leader is not genocidal and the country is not ethnonationalist, then whence cometh Israel?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Tangentially related, but I think the Epicurean paradox is so philosophically solid that it obviates the concept of God as Metaphor.

Christianity has such a weirdly anthropomorphic view of God that just doesn't make sense to me as a Jew. Even the Rabbi of my pretty middle of the road Reform synagogue growing up was very explicit about the view of God as a metaphorical concept rather than as a literal Magic Sky Daddy, which would be blasphemous in just about any Christian church.

[–] InexplicableLunchFiend@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Should look into the rest of Epicurus’ philosophy. He didn’t miss much, and there’s a reason Marx did his college thesis on him. He had early conceptions of germ theory, atomic theory, evolutionary theory and even quantum mechanics arguably (he argued that hard materialism did not deprive us of free will or make everything pre-determined due to “atomic swerve” that was possibly random but could not be accounted for in models of physics).

He also viewed the Greek gods in much the same way, as examples and metaphors. So that he wouldn’t be labeled an atheist and harassed he reluctantly admitted they were real existing beings, but said that they were so perfect that they were completely self-contained and needing nothing more, so they did not interact with the world in any way. Thus their purpose is as archetypes for us to learn from and inspire us, and not as beings who would intervene on our behalf. Any influence from them was more of a passive radiation and exposure than anything direct or intentional.

I fucking love the concept of god as a sense of personal morality. Like whether something is permissible is "between you and god." Or things that are up to chance are "in god's hands."

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

It's kinda the fascist Base and Superstructure, the economy of Israel is entirely based in colonialism and genocide, and the politicians and civilians are mutually locked into a death spiral where they just keep making eachother more genocidal.

yeah we have some tendency to overcorrect against great man theory. a slower pace of atrocities might not have moved american voters.