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You misunderstood me.
I wasn't talking about learning at all.
I never said anything against the human activity of learning. I feel like I triggered you on something personal, for which I'm sorry.
Being in the vicinity of information --> gifted the chance to absorb/learn/remember it.
The girl was gifted (by which I mean randomised circumstances) the chance to put in the effort for those gains, yet she still can't lift a mountain, much less the galaxy. She wouldn't have the same gains if she was in a famine, or without arms, or a snail.
Again, that is not diminishing her efforts, attitude, results in any way, bcs we understand the context of human lives individually (ie she's amazing).
Trivia nerds won't know what random number I'm thinking of. Or what is dark matter. Or which human pooped the largest poop in 1000BC.
Learning is fun, it has a lot of positive synergies with basically everything, and we tend to rightfully cherish knowledgeable ppl more. And we don't think knowledgeable ppl are dumb bcs they don't know things they were never privy to learn. I'm still not sure why would you assume my standing to the opposite, but I think we already cleared that isn't the case.
I didn't move any goalposts (that's just you trying to win something I think - I did include experts) & I think most understood me correctly. But you just wanted to argue (my use of the word gift) like a master debater & extended my simple point into wannabe "this guy doesn't appreciate ppl's efforts & thinks learning is fake".
That's just mean.
Here, have some inspirational quotes (with maybe the general use of the word gift that is lacking in this convo):
thank you for seeing me
Your great longevity wasn't just gifted to you - you earned it through sweat, hard push, and blood!
Gg!
Alas time is a cruel mistress, your once renowned, great name fell to obscurity, monuments erected in your honour faded, cults following your teachings disappointing, the poop buried deep beneath the sand dunes.
May you find solace in that your deed was so great your renown passed on to myth & legends - and you lived to see it!
O7
My name is Ohmandisturdhurt, king of shits:
Look on my plops, ye Mighty, and despair!
Honestly seeing this level of "rhetoric" is just... well I'm just bored arguing kids/idiots like you. You can't actually stand behind your words, so you try to make it personal.
No, you haven't "triggered" anything by wording your comment poorly, but like I said, instead of just saying "oh right you are, that wording does indeed have that implication, I'll word it better" you're going all out on these pathetic ad hominems. Which is a term I'm 85% sure you're gonna misuse due to fundamentally misunderstanding it.
Hahaha dude you do crack me up. You've never heard of willfull ignorance, or can't imagine it's opposite? I pity you.
Yeah uhm does that mean that they don't exist and/or have a much larger grasp of a million different little things than someone who's wasted their life thinking information just randomly spawns into you, so they didn't bother actively learning anything.
That's known as a strawman my little silly-billy. And it's just like I said. You literally can not say "my mistake, I could've worded that better" you've made this be some sort of contest.
It's really not. If it were, you wouldn't stand a chance with, again, that childish level of rhetoric.
I think I've deeply triggered your traumas of getting beat hard in all the quizzes you've ever taken (I don't think you're really the type to play Trivial Pursuit, lolololol.) And that's okay. Learning is good. Like learning to handle your personal emotions and feelings of inferiority.
Which is what you're having a complex about here, because I'm just pointing out your original wording did in fact imply that you think all information we have was "gifted by random chance".
Being mean doesn't equate to an ad hominem, by the way. Neither do insults. They're not synonyms, which you'd know if you had ever spent any time actually learning about them. But you didn't. Perhaps you thought "random chance" would just plop it in your head one day? RUAHAHAHA :D
You argue like a chat bot designed to be obtuse and arrogant.
Come back to Earth, ppl might miss you.
(Also, we have books!)
This is exactly what I mean. I've seen this tantrum a million times. Your ego just can't handle admitting you have made a mistake. So you'll keep pretending you didn't, despite not having the balls to actually argue the point, because you know you did imply with your wording that all experience is "randomly gifted".
And to do that, you start of with pathetic attempts at ad hominems. (Which again, isn't synonymous with "insult".)
No matter how much I keep reiterating that my point is simply your poor wording, you can't accept it as such, and get so disturbed that you first try your shitty rhetoric and when it doesn't work, you change into silly oneliners like that, because you think replying even something completely irrelevant, will somehow make you "get the last word" and you think that's "winning".
But it won't affect your wording and it's implications. It's really not a lot to say "lol I made a mistake, poor wording, yeah", unless you're completely convinced you never make mistakes. Which you'll ofc argue against, while constantly avoiding the actual subject of your poor wording.
Then in like a few days you'll devolve to spamming "k" or something. Genuinely, seen this thousands of times.
One million tantrums! :O
See, defaulting to oneliners, because you literally can't address the subject of why you're in the thread, but your childish ego still forces you to reply something. Just like I said, and will continue saying. You're not gonna "win" this, I'll just keep reminding you of your publicly childish behaviour while you keep replying with a single line and smiley, because you're so ashamed.
Omg, but I only came here to "win"! Noo!!
Just like I said. You simply can't just say "maybe it wasn't the best wording, my mistake".
Instead you publicly make yourself an idiot by dancing exactly to my tune. Just like I said, you're unable to address anything.
The fact that you keep doing that sort of proves me right. ;>
except evil_shrubbery did say that. several comments and something like ten hours ago. they just didn't say that in the exact words you are demanding. is there a reason you want to have an argument?
No they didn't. They pretend to have said that.
It's like apologising to someone by saying "I'm sorry you think you deserve an apology" and then arguing "I already apologised actually" after implicitly stating that the other person didn't in fact even deserve an apology. Meaning that they're not actually sorry for anything, because "sorry you think you deserve an apology" isn't actually a real apology, is it?
I can see how someone wouldn't see the difference. If you're having problems, please ask for help.
please answer the question
Is there a reason you're asking me things, on a forum?
Wait what, is that what people on forums actually do? Oh no.
I'm not having any argument. I'm pointing out someone was mistaken. Is there a problem with that? No, I don't think there is, but I'm sure one person has a problem with it. ;>
so if you're, let me quote you, "not having any argument", put on your big girl panties and stop demanding everyone and everything conform to your exact language because you misread a single word, let me count, almost an entire day ago. chill the fuck out. people use language differently than you do.
No-one's forcing you to participate in this conversation.
Why the three week leave from Lemmy btw? Luckily the "other guy" was active when you weren't. Weirdly, you never comment at the exact same time. Almost as if someone who got shamed went and hopped on their alt.
"people use language differently from you"
Yeah, but that doesn't change how grammar works, does it?
This is about one person being incapable of saying "my mistake" and getting super annoyed. Like I've said, I've seen this tantrum a thousand times. :)
Wait, what on Earth happened to the other 999 thousands tantrums??