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[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To quote myself because i do not have the time to reply originally to this ableist horseshit:

IT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THE TREATMENT OF ANY CONDITION THAT WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT CAUSES THIS CONDITION. EVIDENCE FOR THE EFFICACY OF A TREATMENT IS ENTIRELY SUFFICIENT. IT IS A BETTER EMPIRICAL FOUNDATION THAN LITERALLY ANYTHING YOU ARE ADVOCATING FOR.

[–] KoL_Enjoyer@hexbear.net 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna indulge in a bit of snarkiness, because this comment frustrates me and I feel the need to refute it even after three days.

Did you know that thalidomide was very efficient in preventing early pregnancy vomiting? Or that benzodiazepines were much more efficient as anxiolytics than the preceding class of barbiturates. Antibiotics in general, we don't even need to mention them and their efficacy. Oh and if you want to help someone in shock with oliguria, load them up with diuretics, that's the most efficient method of inducing urine production after all!

My point is, understanding the causes of a condition is critical in finding an actual cure. You can have treatments, symptomatic or otherwise, even without it (see lithium for BPD, valproic acid for epilepsy, many others) and that's fine. But claiming that you don't need to understand the safety profile, potential side effects, risk groups, or anything other than efficacy is, as you say, horseshit.

[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago

The examples we were talking about were mostly amphetamine, methylphenidate and estradiole, all of which have been in use for many decades and are extremely well-studied in their side effects. I actually didn't say ONCE you do not need to be aware of a drug's side effects, it's frankly dishonest to claim i would have said "we do not need to understand anything other than efficacy" when i said "understanding efficacy is more important than understanding the exact neuroscience behind things like ADHD or transness". These are VASTLY different statements.

I still think your objection is making fair valid points that i will not debate because i obviously agree with them, but do not put words into my mouth 3 days after i've crashed out on a completely new account that did nothing but well actually RFK jr.'s policies. That's uncalled for.