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You say that after many of us spent like two years debating that and every other indisputable medical fact that got in the way of our great leader and his brilliant hot takes.
I'm not arguing with them anymore if I can help it. Not worth it, they aren't arguing in good faith, and they are a lost cause. With some stuff though you can't just cede the narrative I figured.
I never felt like I was debating so much as correcting giant argumentative babies throwing fits so that innocent uninformed people reading the threads could at least have a chance at absorbing correct information and not just solely rely on propaganda put forward by the same mental giants that brought us trickle down economics, satanic messages in rock music, and teaching kids shame about everything they do will make them compliant and definitely follow the path the parents want.
Many, if not most, mostly knew they were lying.
It has to be most. Maybe they believed some of it, but for the most part, they were siding with their tribe over their families and the vulnerable on these medical issues at least.
By and large, political lies, I think it's about half that actually believe, but we have no good studies to measure it. We could design some studies to get an idea, asking them won't work though.