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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Um, rich people control Israel.

As revealed in the Behind the Bastards two-parter on How The Liberal Media Helped Fascism Win ( Part one, Part Two on YouTube), rich Jews are aligned with the ownership class first and with their fellow working-class Jews second.

The current aggressive expansionism featuring genocide in Palestine (and beyond) is not popular among Jewish peoples, even the general Israeli population. But it is popular among the elites that control Israel... And curiously, the billionaires that control the United States.

[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While I mostly agree, it would be a lie to say that the working class people in Israel would be opposed to the violence used in Palestine. (https://www.dw.com/en/how-do-israelis-see-gaza-war-and-palestinian-suffering/a-73600368 )

For an IDI survey conducted at the end of July, researchers asked, "to what extent are you personally troubled or not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza?"

Over three-quarters of Jewish Israelis — 79% — were not that troubled or not troubled at all. Jewish Israelis also said they believe the Israeli military is doing enough to avoid unnecessary suffering.

Over half said it was important to free the remaining hostages.Only 6% argued the war should end because "of the great cost in human life" and a desire for peace.

Unfortunately, the population in Israel seems to have mostly bought into the propaganda and the racism / Jewish surpremacy and there is probably no going back from it, if you don't do something like the denazification project in Germany. The opposition to the war in Israel comes mainly from a desire to free the Israeli hostages, not a critique of the warcrimes / genocide.

You have to understand, that this genocide didn't start with October 7th, it started about 100 years ago, when the settler colonial project in Palestine first began. If the Israelis were opposed to the violence, they probably wouldn't have moved to Israel or stayed there in the first place.

The working class doesn't profit from this genocide, but they can unfortunately be pretty easily won over by bigotry.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But are the rich people Jewish? I wouldn't want to promote a harmful stereotype.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if they were, their religion has no causation to them being bad people.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 11 hours ago

It does give them justification, which honestly might actually be worst. Because if they can justify their decisions to be horrible people, even if only to themselves, there's nothing they won't do. Getting around cognitive dissonance is the real trick, and religion is a really effective excuse in that regard. People have been using it for thousands of years for that exact purpose.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 0 points 1 day ago

BTB? Oh wow, it's pretty impressive that you managed to snag some knowledge from this marathon of intrusive ads with an occasional pinch of content.