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Memes of Production

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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the “ML” influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

pretty sure tankies in threadiverse have nothing to do with ML theory.

I disagree. Many share important ideological things such as democratic centralism and many use the same talking points offline MLs use to defend their favorite states. In practice they also always seem to fall back to ML approaches when asked about what to do.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure tankies in threadiverse haven't read any theory ml or otherwise

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn, I'm having an identity crisis. Am I a dogmatist who reads theory and blindly accepts everything I read, or do I not read theory at all 🤔

Do you actually have any reason for thinking that we don't read theory, btw, or is this just another case of, "They're bad anyway so it's fine to just make up whatever about them?"

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're a dogmatist who blindly accepts general vibes and cargo cults shit you half overheard from people who are wrong or you've been outside and I'm not talking about you but I don't think that's the case given this comment

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Dogmatically accept a general vibe" is a new one for me. It's a very funny example of how comically baseless your criticisms are. So obsessed with shitting on us about every single thing that you can't even keep things straight. Won't let us have a single positive quality even to keep your story straight.

Let me repeat my precious question: is there anything about the "general vibe" I supposedly follow that actually deviates from the theory I supposedly haven't read? Do you actually have any reason to think we don't read theory, or are you just shitting on us in every possible way you can concieve of, with no basis in reality?

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago

Sorry some shit head deleted my perfect most count after I abandoned this account so I guess j need to reply to you I think you collectively tend to identify with communism and its brajding more than doing communism in reality its a oroblem

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

No they do read, especially crap such as Engels On Authority

[–] alapakala@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

bruv, reread what I commented.
We can seize the memes of Marx-Leninism without praxing the acts.
Black anarchism is ML praxis, but more about empowering each other, than excommunicating people for contrivances.
e.g. Blåhaj is an ML instance, but Nexus Ancap. This doesn't mean they need to defederate and gulag each other.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hmm maybe we are just not getting each other. I feel like I precisely replied to a part of your comment, but you seem to think I really missed the point.

Black anarchism is ML praxis

To me this doesnt make sense, and from a hlance your links dont seem to be able to explain that to me. Doesnt mean its not there, just that I dont get it. I connect ML praxis with hierarchical, authoritarian and exclusionary organizing and I dont see that really reflected in your link.

e.g. Blåhaj is an ML instance, but Nexus Ancap.

I wouldnt describe those instances with those words, but I think we also just use them differently

[–] alapakala@quokk.au 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I connect ML praxis with hierarchical, authoritarian and exclusionary organizing and I dont see that really reflected in your link.

Thoust needs more reading.
MLs are horizontal, vanguardian and inclusionary when organizing. They just are more aware some folks excel at vanguarding better than direct actors, aiders, intersecters, solidarity, etc. etc.. Not everyone is Superman, but I can definitively trust Lois Lane can get her hands on the list of the Legion of Doom’s secret addresses, or say Superboy intersecting with many people in a rally. Awareness of how people excel at other things over other things is just being aware people are different. And MLs accept those facts are real, and need to be accounted when organizing anything.

We are no longer going to talk about tankies, I pray.

I wouldnt describe those instances with those words, but I think we also just use them differently.

I exemplified praxis over meming. The rules are in place for actual enforcements. “Influence” here meaning actually mimicking Joseph Stalin for enforcing his views over all. e.g. “I would hate to gulag you for ‘wrongthink’”

[–] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We are no longer going to talk about tankies, I pray.

Pray all you want.
The definition of a tankie is a person that supports the idea that a country should have the right to use its military or paramilitary forces for suppressing unwanted domestic civilian activity.

If you do support tankie regimes, such as that of China or the Russia, you are a tankie.

Tankies are not okay. You see a tankie, punch him on the face. Thank you for your attention.

[–] alapakala@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sorry, I don't read LLM prompts by @flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com Try again on another alt.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, here's my oldest one with actual activity. Good enough?

[–] alapakala@quokk.au 1 points 3 days ago

That works!


Did you take a moment to read my profile’s posts&comments?

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If you are gonna throw around random accusations with zero evidence, that's [bad jacketing[(https://anarchist-archive.org/library/en/anonymous-not-liking-someone-doesnt-mean-theyre-a-cop-on-bad-jacketing).

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

The rules are in place for actual enforcements. “Influence” here meaning actually mimicking Joseph Stalin for enforcing his views over all. e.g. “I would hate to gulag you for ‘wrongthink’”

That's a poor analogy. It's a federated network. No one is "gulaged" when we ban them. They've got the rest of the threadiverse to interact with. A "gulag" analogy would be apt if we had the ability to ban transphobic accounts from the whole of the fediverse, but we don't have that power. All we can do is stop them from entering our space.