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As an atheist, I don't go around bashing on others' beliefs - as long as they're respectful to others and don't use their beliefs to police others.
A grandma on her deathbed, trying to find comfort in her faith? Hell, I will sit with her and confirm that she's indeed about to see her dead husband and spend eternity with him. Because at that point, being kind is more important than being right or debating theology.
But, the moment you try to use your beliefs to dictate how others live (beyond basic morality, going beyond the golden rule), out comes the "fuck off with your imaginary sky daddy" argument. You are free to live your life by any doctrine you want, as long as it doesn't affect others negatively. You don't want to eat meat? Sure, go for it. You don't want to eat pork/beef/seafood? It's your body, your choice. You don't want to get an abortion or transition to a different gender or be in a gay relationship? Again, it's up to you. But the very second you try to tell others to live by your rules, you can fuck right off, and then fuck off some more just for good measure.
And it's not like I'm not open to debate. I guess at the end I'm more agnostic rather than atheist, in this aspect. I welcome theological debate. I'll gladly argue about it for hours as long as you're respectful. I've got a bunch of theist friends - Christians, Muslims, Hindu, a variety of pagan/wiccan witches, and so on - with whom we do sit down on occasion with a drink or a joint and debate various aspects of belief, religion (organised or personal), their effects and influences on society and vice versa. It can be a brilliant topic of discussion as long as everyone respects the others and listens to their side. After all, every single person has their own point of view formed by their upbringing, their life experiences, and so on, and these are equally important regardless if you agree with them or not. But it's equally important to understand that these debates aren't meant to convert anyone. They are there to convey a part of you you find important, so others can better understand you. Understanding why one turned away from, or turned to religion, and how that helped them as a person.
To summarise: religion is like a penis. It's okay to have one, it's okay to not have one. It's even okay to be proud of (not) having one. Hell, it's even okay to think yours is better than others'. What's not okay is pulling it out in public and trying to force it down others' throats, or try to legislate in the form of a dick measuring contest.
I don't like how agnostic and atheist have been used. Atheist means a lack of belief in a god. Anti-theist is the active belief there isn't one. Agnostic is someone who knows that they cannot know if there's a god. Agnostic atheist is someone who knows they can't know if there's a god and lacks the belief in one.
Agnostic is not the same claim as atheist or theist. It is a claim on the ability to know something, not on the beliefs that person holds. A gnostic atheist is the same as an Anti-theist. They think they can know there isn't a god. The inverse for a gnostic theist. You can also be an agnostic theist, who doesn't think it can be known, but they still believe.
And also like a penis, keep it away from children. It sickens me how much religion preys on children to indoctrinate them before they have the critical thinking skills to see through the grift.
I agree that this is the best approach to it. Live and let live.
I'm an atheist as well, and I definitely went through that stereotypical antagonistic phase when I was much younger, and now I cringe about it. I've softened on religion a lot since then and no longer view it as a human failing that has only caused harm. I respect that others may have reached a different conclusion than me, and I recognize that religion has served as a vehicle for culture that has driven much of the societal progress and values that we take for granted today.
I was very antagonistic because I grew up an atheist in a conservative ultracatholic hell. Now I live in a chill place that used to also be conservative ultracatholic hell. I got to meet religious people that didn't sincerely believe that I deserve to be tortured forever for not believing in what they do, who aren't bigots, who believe in abortions, who hate rapist priests. When people aren't mad at you all the time, it's so much more peaceful to reciprocate.
It's easy to fall into antitheism when the only religious people around you are structurally supporting evil, it's hard when you see that people can actually have a positive relationship with their religion and community, even if they are incorrect about some metaphysical truth.
Do one better, tell them that your sky daddy is bigger than theirs and could beat him in a fight, then pull out pamphlets on your chosen fake god and give them to them for a change.
Literally did it last week, couple Mormons came to sell me bullshit, I pulled out a couple pamphlets from The Church of the SubGenius and told them the good word of "Bob". Much more fun, and it's harder for them to dismiss than anti-theism outright because they're used to that but like nobody does this lmao.
Which Bob are we talking about here?
The only "Bob" that matters of course, the Saint of Sales and One True Slack Master himself, J. R. "Bob" Dobbs. "Bob" is the founder of The Church, in 1953 while working on a television set it shocked the living ghee out of him and through this he communicated with JHVH-1 (Jehovah as you may know him), he pretends to be a god but he told "Bob" the Truth, he's an evil alien from some corporate sin galaxy here to take our Slack! After this Revelation "Bob" founded The Church to help save the True SubGenii (that's me, and maybe you! Find out at www.subgenius.com or send $5 to "Bob" at P.O Box 807 Glen Rose TX 76043 and request the pamphlet) hiding amongst the humans and stop JHVH-1. To do this he sold the planet to the good aliens, the X-ists, who will come rupture all the ordained SubGenii into the PleasureSaucers come X-Day (July 5th 1998, which hasn't happened yet despite what The Conspiracy wants you to think. 2026, pfft yeah right, then where's my Saucer?).
It's true, scout's honor.
What the HELL do you think you're doing!?
(Also, here's Arise! because I love it)
So not one of the Bobs of Dennis E. Taylor?
Nah, none of them have the quotes.
I agree with you, it's cruel to force others to live by your dietary rules. I'm personally vegan, and I'm completely fine with meat eaters as long as they don't force their dietary choices onto other people or animals.
Right? It's maddening to see that meat eaters can not see this incredibly obvious contradiction in their otherwise commendable live and let live mentality.
Lmfao that summary. I have a very similar approach to life. It's blindingly apathetic, for the most part. I just don't care which way your gate swings, what, if any sky daddy you believe in etc. My only rule is simple: don't be a shitbag. That's it. That's all. Treat people like they're humans. If you are a shitbag, out comes the billy club.
Sent you a DM, hmu :)