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From what I understand parents were freaking out about having their kids outside in the dark either before or after school, I don't remember which. That's the only argument against it I think I've ever heard.
Stock market. Everyone is waiting for NY to decide, because an hour shift has huge rippling effects for trading algorithms. It hasn't happened because of $$$, not because leaders care about kids.
Which is so damn stupid. Either shut up, because the northern part of the country and other countries manage this without whinging about it,
OR get involved locally and change the school start time.
I used to wait at the bus stop in the winter at 6am when it was still pitch black out.
It would be light before the bus got there and dark again within two hours of getting home.
This was in Minneapolis, but I lived in the south side while going to a specialized program at North High, the other side of the city, so it wasn't typical.
Anywhere in the north quarter of the continental US already has kids waiting for the bus in the dark, regardless of DST. It's a poor argument from the get go
Yeah and they don’t heave time to enjoy the morning light before school anyway. It’s after school when we need the extra sun (which is still quite limited in northern states).
I mean you get screwed on one side of the equation anyway just because of sunlight hours shortening by the season. Hell, Alaskans have months without meaningful sunlight. And then months with basically 24h sunlight. Unless jobs were to adjust their hours with the seasons theres no way not to get screwed at some point.
There's an appreciable increase in cardiovascular events and car accidents when we lose an hour. For that reason alone we should stop the stupid clock changing.
Ah, North High. I played a bunch of flash games and watched the back half of the Naruto Chuunin Exams arc in the media center there since Cartoon Network’s website wasn’t blocked for some reason. Good times.
So just move it 30 minutes one last time and call it good.
So then it would be say 4pm on the East Coast of the US and something 30 in every other country? That would make things more confusing for everyone. The rest of the world would have to agree to this and that ain't happening.
Half hour time zones exist but year aren’t common
The rest of the world wouldn't have to agree to it, but I do think it would be a needless complication.
Every place except Afghanistan.
The rest of the world doesn’t need to agree.
I can't fathom how this isn't the answer. Seems like it would be a slam dunk.
Kids waiting for the bus in the dark is the most legitimate concern when it comes to this issue.
That's gonna happen anyway. There is no way to guarantee a reasonable sunrise time all year. I hate changing the clocks and like getting up after sunrise, but nothing is more dispiriting than going home from work in the dark, and there would be less of that with permanent DST.
Well, we could just define sunrise as 7 a.m. and Sunset as 7 p.m.
That would mean very long 12 hours in summer and very short 12 hours in winter, but it would make sure that no kid had to take a bus in the dark (unless they take a bus considerably before 7)
Happens a heck of a lot less though the other way. And you being inconvienced is way less compelling.
The reason it happens less is DST though.
I'm all for Standard Time