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The baseline tank size for a ram 3500 is 32 gallons. Diesel is $5.74/gal on average in the Midwest. So a full fill up is ~$184/tank. You underestimated that, yikes.
For more fun, you can also upgrade to a 50 gallon tank, making it $287/tank.
These get a respectable ~18 mpg, so $0.32 per mile.
Just throwing money away
They get 18mpg when you drive them like a fucking baby on the highway. Your average idiot who floors it at every stoplight, and does 90 on the interstate gets half that.
It gets between 11-12 mpg on average according to user reports at Fuelly
Diesel is around $6/gal depending on where you live.
It costs around $0.50/mile to drive a Ram 3500 6L just in fuel. On average. Across thousands of drivers that reported data.
Don't forget the ~~fucking idiots~~ totally cool and definitely not compensating intellectuals that "roll coal".
“Tuning” trucks to roll coal is also just turning up the fuel injector duration so they are also blowing extra diesel out basically unburned.
Cutting off your toes to make people pay attention to your semi-weekly pedicure.
Don't forget the drag from all the flags
I have a Subaru WRX and it requires 91+ octane. It was $5.64/gal for me a couple days ago square in the Midwest. $71 to fill up and my gas light wasn't even on. Right next to the 91 on the pump was 88 at < $4.50/gal. When I filled up 2 weeks ago it was $5.09 then 2 days later $5.39. Fuck Trump and his admin so hard.
Midwest for me too, cost me $71 to fill up my GTI on Saturday. $6.25 a gallon for 93. Guess I should be grateful I can tune back to stock and run 87 if I have to.
Gas is so cheap in the US....
Right, I know it is still cheaper than it should be given the environmental cost. I wish I had any other way to get to work but the infrastructure simply doesn’t exist where I am.
If your average daily drive is 40 miles or less you can use a regular wall outlet to charge an EV.
Any more than that and you'll need a bigger home charger, but you can still charge at home where it's cheap unless you're driving over 100 miles or so every day.
I've been kicking myself for months for not grabbing an EV when I had to look for a vehicle recently, but got stuck with a gas guzzler cuz I need to be able to tow shit... I fucking hate my car.
I actually have an L2 charger on a 40A line…my main barrier is vehicle size. I’m a tiny car guy. I refuse to buy an SUV or crossover. I’d love an ID.2 or ID.GTI but Americans like their cars as big as their meals — yuge. So VW will almost certainly never sell an EV smaller than the ID.4 here, used to have one and it barely fit in my garage. Not that I’m tied to VW, I’ve just owned a lot of them.
The only actual subcompact EVs I’ve seen for sale have been the Leaf, Niro, whatever that tiny BMW abomination is called, and the Bolt.
So I guess my barrier is that I’m picky. And I wanted a GTI for years and years and just finally got one…would have bought an electric version in a heartbeat instead.
I guess there’s also the e-golf, but there are not a ton of them in the US and given their age idk how good of range they’d have at this point.
I traded in my Miata for a 2017 Bolt last year and I love the stupid little thing. By American standards it's a small car, but it has a good deal of space inside. But I'll also say that it's small enough that it's fun to take downtown where parking gets hairy.
So, if you haven't tried one yet, I'd recommend at least giving the Bolt a shot.
I suppose there’s nothing stopping me from test driving one…
I can't think of a time past 2000 where driving conventional ICE trucks/big vehicles has been anything other than a money sink.
Most status symbols are.
There's some douchecanoe in my county who drives around in an obnoxiously large truck with a giant decal on the rear window that says "Daddy's money paid for this truck. AND I'M DADDY!"
These people are not reasonable, healthy, or sane individuals.
I tried putting some figures ($85K Ram 3500, diesel, financed) into truecosttodrive.com and got a cost/mile of $0.95.
Point being: Cutting the price of fuel by a third (getting back to where it had been in 2025, say) isn't going to turn that into an economy ride. Even at $6 / gallon, most of the cost is depreciation, insurance, and maintenance. Driving is absurdly expensive and I believe we only put up with it because so much of the cost is hidden or easy to overlook.
maybe downhill. lucky to see 12-15 after lifting, or even less with towing.
Let's be honest here. None of these people tow anything with their Pavement Princesses™.
Fucken hell my 25 year old Tacoma gets better mileage, that's factoring in uphill mileage loss of going uphill along the 15 towards Vegas.
No shit your midsize pickup gets better mileage than a heavy-duty full-size one, even if the latter does have a diesel. Were you surprised??
yeah but the heavy duty can climb cinder block mountains, those are everywhere.
Eh, a Tacoma is generally going to be better than a 3500 for climbing over obstacles because it's more nimble and has better approach/breakover/departure angles. A bigger vehicle (aside from the tires) isn't necessarily better for that sort of thing.
I was kidding. I don't give a fuck.
Can they make a lot of unnecessary dust as ! drive? How about into a sunset scene?
It's just the fact that my old ass car is getting better mileage than a modern truck. Especially since most of these big fuckass mobiles generally leave the basement less than my basic bitch Tacoma which is just a 2WD drive.
Engines have gotten somewhat more efficient in the past 25 years, but not that much more efficient. For example, a 2026 base-model Tacoma is a whopping 3 MPG more efficient than a 2001 base-model Tacoma (according to the EPA, anyway; according to vehicle owners they're the same).
https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=16989&id=50081
Internal-combustion engines are a pretty mature technology, especially once you're talking new enough to have fuel injection. Other than stuff like Atkinson-cycle engines (which only apply to hybrids), the small refinements in efficiency since the '90s aren't anywhere near enough to overcome the vast size/weight/capacity difference from a reasonably-small truck to a gigantic one.
My 20 year old moped gets better mileage than a modern 18-wheeler
Yeah, well my EV gets INFINITE gas mileage!
Bikes will always get better mileage than basically any other gas powered vehicle with maybe the sole exception of trains. If memory serves right Germany was still using motorcycles right till the end of WW2 after a everything else ran out of fuel.
Idk just seems weird for anyone to want a gas guzzler when better shit is available especially when you don't need it for anything else. Hell with how shit modern cars are and how expensive they are on top of that you could probably pay someone to build you a car if you supplied the frame for cheaper.
With how shit modern cars are? AFAIK they last longer than ever
Used to be hitting 100,000 miles was rare, or at least a sign of old age.
Yeah I forget that the internal combustion engine is so old my last first generation American family member was still alive, mind you he was ancient even by modern standards but still. Ya kinda get used to tech advancing massively over time if not in form then in function that it's easy to forget that's not universally applicable, after all my Kbar isn't too different from a neolithic stone knife you could give it to a living Otzi and he'd know what it is.
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Yeah I don't know. I've been vaguely sick for the last few days and I think it broke my brain a bit.