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So shoplifting?
Also "old guy", you have kids in school, how old could you be?
He never said they were his kids. He just uses the local school to provide cover and plausible deniability.
Also taking food isn't theft or shoplifting.
Ah now I get it. 😄
Uh, what? What is it then? It ain't legal for sure.
Legal \= Moral
Many laws are ok (don't drive without the seatbelt on) but you need to think it out yourself.
I already got my answer. It is shoplifting. I was just wondering what crime it was, technically speaking.
If you see someone taking food, no you didn't.
Grow some basic empathy.
I don't care if someone takes food.
I want to know what crime it is if it isn't shoplifting or theft.
If you want to go by the letter of the extremely immoral laws that govern our society it would be shoplifting. Calling it that allows people with no empathy to pass judgement and kick a victim of their precious system, while they are down.
It shouldn't be a crime. It should be a crime to starve someone by underpayment of wages.
Why can't both be crimes? There can be two wrongs in this equation. You shouldn't just take things. But you should also be able to afford to live if you have work, and also if you can't work. A society has failed you if you can't. Agreed.
Because one is a crime poor people do against rich people, and the other is a crime rich people do against poor people.
I doubt the owner of "my local grocery store" is a rich person.
Perhaps for your specific case. I was referring to the more general "supermarket food stealing" sort of situation.
Okay, I was talking about the topic in this thread.
To be perfectly clear, I care not one whit about legality. It was illegal to harbor Jews, Homosexuals, and Neurodivergent people in Germany in 1937-1945. It is currently illegal in places to give people who are waiting, for hours in the hot sun to vote, water bottles. It is illegal in places to give food to people experiencing homelessness. Not one of those laws has a shred of moral backing.
Jeez. I agree, but I wasn't going all that deep. I meant it isn't morally right, of course, and also not legal, so I was wondering what crime it is if not theft or shoplifting?
If he wasn't paid enough during his life to afford food, the morally wrong decision wasn't his.
Not everyone is a victim. Many are, but assuming someone is "morally right" to just take food without paying for it is also passing judgement. They could just be not willing to pay. A kleptomaniac e.g.
The only thing we can say is that we don't know until we know them and their life.