I feel like the problem with 8 was how ham-fisted it was. Like, I get wanting to break the norms, go a different direction, and not rely on nostalgia to direct your story. But maybe taking what everyone loved from the first movies, going "actually all this stuff you loved is SHIT and you were stupid for ever liking it" and then literally burning it all in front of everyone was the wrong way to go about that.

It felt like the writer held some deep seeded hatred for Star Wars and its fans, and went out of their way to make that known.

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 9 points 10 hours ago

It's not saying "you are stupid for ever liking it", but a lot of old star wars fans are taking it that way. Not everything is a personal attack.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The person you’re referring to is JJ Abrams. JJ Abrams thinks he knows everything about movies and doesn’t need to know anything about the source material, it’s a fairly well documented fact that he was neither a Star Trek fan nor a Star Wars fan before making either movies. I have so many problems with JJ Abrams going all the way back to Lost and I don’t think I will ever forgive him for ruining two of my favorite franchises and TV storytelling for the time being.

[–] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I thought this was the one he didn’t do.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

On 8? He was the executive producer.

[–] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Admittedly, I’ve never actually known what an executive producer does.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 minutes ago (1 children)

I think they are supposed to represent the money but that usually gives them more power than they are supposed to have.

For instance, quite famously in The Matrix executive meddling is the reason that humans are batteries and not augmentations to the machine’s computing power. Which is why there are some things that don’t make quite as much sense until you realize that everybody still in the matrix is supposed to be having most of their brain power used elsewhere.

[–] aGlassDarkly@piefed.zip 1 points 3 minutes ago

With this context, your initial comment now makes complete sense to me. Thanks for explaining.

[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago

What were the things you liked they shit on?