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[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is true, but the risks of the oil economy have been known for a very long time. Everybody knows that the oil/auto fuel supply chain is in areas with fragile geopolitical relations and it's not like this hasn't happened before.

What we should be doing is channeling our frustration toward transitioning from ICE automobiles to EVs[1], but look at how slowly European carmakers are adapting. The rate of change in Germany has been embarrassingly slow and China is galaxies ahead of anyone else. We need to invest and compete, rather than throwing up our hands and blaming others for fucking up things we shouldn't be depending on anymore.

[1]: and improving public transit too of course

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

Yes yes and thrice, yes. πŸ™

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not really convinced China is that far ahead of everyone else in the EV market. Sure, they have cheap cars, but is the quality better? I haven't tried a lot, but to me it seems the quality and features are pretty much the same as european, japanese or south korean. I just bought a Japanese car, because the BYD that was comparable but cheaper just felt like a toy car. Everything about the interior just felt like cheap plastic. The infotainment screen was a mess, and I had to go into 3 (3!) submenus to turn on the heated seats.

I'm not convinced the chinese cars are better. They're comparable and cheap, but it's not like they offer something no one else does.

[–] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I can speak from point of view of having a new electric made in France Renault Megane with a pretty fancy interior and a new made in China electic Dacia which is super basic and say I do not care a jot about interior quality.. what I am loving is the incredible reliability, the instant start, the incredible torque and acceleration even from the tiny cheap Dacia. (Just don’t floor the Dacia because the tyres are the weak point) and you can get dramatic wheel spin!

Agreed, they probably are cheap garbage (I myself don't know, I haven't driven cars regularly in a while), but two things:

  1. Manufacturing volume is really important in making cars. You need know-how, you need experts and ways to make things better and deliver incremental improvements, and that becomes a lot easier when you have higher volumes.

  2. People don't have lots of cash to burn these days - quality is easy to sacrifice when you don't have the cash to pay up.