The overall purpose is still unfolding because the political situation in the US is currently turbulent and class issues are in the process of being mainstreamed.

He does third parties, though with a light touch (at this time). If PSL will invite him to collab, why should I cast him out?

i agree with conservative coworkers on 80% things as well, if i pose questions in the right way, so

Right, so put them on Hasan so he can do the work of bringing them ~18% of the way closer to you. Meet up with them in 6 months or something and you just need need to direct them into your org of preference.

Once again "vote blue" is an underdeveloped analysis. "Spend money on bexos platforms" is having a job, he doesn't have another source of income outside of Twitch subs. "Get expensive house" is not an argument about anything, nobody cares, socialism is not a poverty cult.

"Rub shoulders with dipshits" doesn't matter if they are powerful dipshits, political practice is a social game. If you aren't doing the same to at least a minor extent, I have a difficult time imagining that you are an effective political operator in your community.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

the class issues are in the process of further subjugation (by share of worker gdp or union density further decline), amerikkkans are in the 1870s russia (going to the people, questionable empire, nihilism, undirected actions, security state spreading its wings), not even 1905 (although i think russia is all sorts of wrong, while some parallel of peasants paying their imposed liberation thingy might be comparable to rents, it's still entirely different class, weimar republic in 1920s is both alarmist and fits even worse, france under napoleon 3rd also kinda fits with some adjustments, yet same time period)

i won't put them on a millionaire streamer, please be serious. socialism is not poverty cult, but also socialism is love for the fellow human, not treatlerism. i like to think my coworker believe me more when i volunteer on week-ends and share some donation stuff i think fits their profile, be it free software or some global south issue or some pet shelter.

50 years of effective operators rubbing shoulders with powerful people, how did that work out for unions? going well i hope.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This attitude right here turns so many people off of our cause. I hope you don't talk to people like this IRL