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Uncle worked down at city dump. He loved it. He was kind of a garbologist in a way. He was fascinated by all the things folks threw away. Retired there too. Got a job right out of high school and worked until he was 62 and retired. Dude has so many "trash" sculptures. That is to say, sculptures made out of trash. I think you'd be surprised the jobs folks enjoy doing.
Do you think your uncle was in any way representative of the millions of people employed in waste disposal? The city of Birmingham's bins have gone partially uncollected for over a year due to a dispute over pay. If waste disposal workers were, in general, doing it for the love of it, they'd surely be happy to do it for minimum wage.
Seems more likely your uncle was the odd one out, and most people need to be paid to do stinky work.
The pay argument is cause it wasn't enough to cover necessities. If necessities were 100% covered then there's no need to argue over pay.
I think that mostly happens because it's a hard job and because people need money to live. If they didn't they wouldn't need more pay
If it's so enjoyable, why don't they do it as a hobby and have a different paying job?
To be clear, I think the answer is obviously that, to most people, it's not that enjoyable.
Because, I don't know if you're noticed, having a paying job is exhausting. The world setup in such a way that for a normal person, getting money means someone will suck every bit of life of you.
That's, pardon the not nice metaphor, the difference between night of passionate sex and selling your ass so your pimp doesn't beat you up. Both activities can be reduced to physical aspects, but not a lot of people will ask why one is desirable and the other is less so.
Yet most people have hobbies. So what you're saying is that working as a garbage disposal person is not enjoyable enough to generally make people want to do it every day alongside having a regular job. They'd rather play video games, or write a Lemmy frontend, or something else that's more fulfilling and doesn't stink.
Most people need to be paid to do work. Bad argument. I won't be responding further, if this is how you argue.
If you agree most people need to be paid to do work, then we have no disagreement on the topic at hand, so there is no need to argue at all.
You changed the argument. That's why it's a bad argument. It's not your fault though, most people argue that way. I should not comment, I think. Clearly, it's not an enjoyable experience for me anymore. This was very enlightening. Thank you for this opportunity. Peace and blessings unto you and your family.
I don't believe I did. I was always talking about whether it was necessary to offer incentives to do jobs like waste collection or if they'd be done anyway in an ideal society.