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Another failure to understand intellect from wisdom
I've heard many different explanations of intelligence vs wisdom, and I used to think it made sense.
Like, intelligence is raw processing power while wisdom is having the advantage of experience.
Or like a smart man looks for oncoming cars before crossing a one-way street, while a wise man looks both ways before crossing a one-way street.
But the more I know about the world, the less I think experienced people are necessarily wiser. They're only wiser if they have the intelligence, clarity, and willpower to learn from their past.
So to me, it seems that wisdom is more like the area under the intelligence curve. Which would make them inexorably linked.
Time to wheel out an old classic:
Intelligence is knowing tomatoes are a fruit
Wisdom is knowing not to put tomatoes in fruit salad
Bonus: Charisma is selling tomato based fruit salad as salsa
Dexterity is dodging rotten tomatoes
Strength is punching a tomato so hard that it turns into ketchup.
Constitution is winning a tomato eating contest
Constitution is being able to digest a rotten tomato without getting sick or dying.
Ever watch Cool Hand Luke?
What we've got here is failure to communicate.
No, dexterity is removing the stem/core without crushing the tomato, or slicing it without smushing it
Then what's agility?
In DnD it's not an ability score since they use dexterity to mean agility anyway.
Dexterity is about precision, usually with your hands. It should be about more fine motor skills your stuff.
Agility is technically just being about to change directions quickly, but I feel like it applies to gross motor skills, like dodging or acrobatics.
The flights over DND definitions are endless though.
For tomatoes... Agility is dodging. Dexterity is catching without smooshing it.
Ngl i was thinking in the context of Fallout cause ive been playing way too much FNV XD
Heck yeah. I like the special system!
Agility is the quality of being breakable or becoming damaged under light stress or force in relation to the expected use for an object or system.
Dodging the ketchup
Dammit now I want salsa but it's time for bed
Wisdom is more about how to apply knowledge to practical situations. It can be gained from experience, but not always, and sometimes it could be completely intuitional. Like someone in a situation they've never faced before, but instinctively knew what to do without really being able to explain why.
I agree that intelligence is about processing power, but in more human terms I think it's about being able to follow a trail of facts to their logical conclusions, and being able to extrapolate/interpolate accurately.
It's also commonly confused with knowledge, which is really just about how many facts you know. You can know a lot of things and still be stupid, and you can know few things and still be smart. I've met people who have memorized a lot of facts, but were incapable of actually thinking.
The way that makes the most sense for me is intelligence is related to external learning (books, from others, from detailed observation, etc) whereas wisdom comes primarily from internal observation (self-reflection, personal experience, situational awareness, etc.)
Ding ding ding! This is why sorcerers and dragons relay on wisdom, and mages relay on intelligence. One is born with a gift, the other is learned. And I think, at least older DnD, did it right to have a mage be able to do more through study than a sorcerer would be able to muster on providence.
But lots of people take long years of reflection to gain wisdom. That's why Clerics and Monks use wisdom.
I always thought of a hierarchy:
Data, information, knowledge, wisdom.
Intelligence being the ability to move further up that scale.
I'd argue for the existence of a third stat, Reflection. This would be the ability to analyze acquired information and create elastic principles out of it, allowing knowledge to be used in novel ways.
Someone can acquire all the book knowledge in the world, or learn at the feet of the wisest elders, but many otherwise brilliant people can't apply what they've learned outside of the context they learned it in. Reflection turns fragile knowledge into flexible systems and concepts that can be applied elsewhere.
The downside is that reflection takes time - many times more than rote learning - and free time is the ultimate luxury in modern civilization. Our education systems try to cram as much knowledge into students' heads as quickly as possible, then wonders why graduates are so inept when they encounter anything unfamiliar.
(And maybe that's the real reason so many cultures venerate elders: it's not just that they carry the accumulated experience of several decades, but that once retired they finally had the time to look back and reflect on their life.)
Wisdom is evaluated experience. Some people don't "think", hence never learn from their mistakes.
Others are so open to learning that they don't even need to make the mistake first to learn to avoid it, as reading about it in a book is sufficient.
The key in either of these scenarios - negative or positive - is being willing to learn.
Intelligence is mere processing power, which meh, can help, but is neither necessary nor sufficient.
I think it's also ability to learn and ability to extrapolate and correctly understand the lessons learned. A fool (one lacking wisdom) may see the car going the wrong way down the one way street and conclude that it's not a one way street or that traffic rules don't matter, whereas the wise person sees it and concludes that sometimes people will ignore traffic rules and so they shouldn't entrust their safety to the assumption that everyone is following them.
The fool loudly proclaims that they have "arrived" at knowing something, while a wise person will always stay curious!
Fools think themselves wise, but the wise know themselves to be fools.
Wisdom is perception and intuition. Intelligence is mental acuity, recall, reasoning.
I find it funny that the abilities are still so debated when they are explained pretty well in every DND book. I feel like it gets brought up almost once per session lol.
I suspect that one disconnect is that we're not specifically talking about DND. This isn't an RPG community or a DND community. It's just a comic strip community.
The comic has a cloak of wisdom, but otherwise seems to be entirely in a modern setting.
The person I responded to just mentioned "intelligence" and "wisdom", and people do talk about these with regard to real life and not games. In fact, my aphorism about looking both ways at a one-way street is one that was created referencing real life.
My take: Intelligence is the rate at which you can acquire wisdom.
Most exams are measurements of neither. They're a test of knowledge.
You are technically correct. The best kind
My mom called this "read and regurgitate."