What's so shitty? I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Mac for work over 5. I have my terminal under f12 (iterm2/Konsole), I have my ide on one desktop, my calendar, my email and my slack on a another and a browser on another. I barely notice any difference. Honestly I don't mind it at all. In fact if my desktop died and had to replace it, I might get a Mac mini instead.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also use Mac for work and personal. But I spend most of my time in neovim and the browser, so tbh I don’t really care what I use. I just like that I can answer texts from my Mac via iMessage. I haven’t tried them, but I think there are some i3 style window managers for macOS. That’s the next thing I would explore if I wanted a more Linux like experience.

I started doing my Xcode builds in CI, so I guess I’m not really tied to Mac anymore. In its current state, I’m more attached to the hardware than the software.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Codemagic? I've made some pokes at using that for iOS builds with middling luck.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I’m using Fastlane, which I’m running via GitHub actions triggered by git tag.

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ignoring prices, Mac is definitely the second best option after Linux for Linux-y development flows. None of my issues were huge, but still enough to ask for a Linux laptop for a replacement.

Very little customization, compared to Linux. I'm talking horizontal tiling window managers like Niri
Docker does not run natively, so you pay a hefty performance penalty with the VM
File name case insensitivity caused a bunch of Git issues

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Fair enough. I do run my docker containers in a real Linux, either homelab or EC2.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have been using Linux since the 10th grade. But for work I'm using a Mac. Because I'm not only engineering, but doing other things related to work, having a Mac is more productive and practical.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

but doing other things related to work, having a Mac is more productive and practical.

I used to do the same, but lately every office thing is browser based, and I find the Linux and Mac experiences are identical.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The web version of Office is so scuffed. I wouldn't wish trying to do any serious Excel work with the web version on my worst enemy.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

That's fair. I also wouldn't wish serious Excel work on my worst enemy. But I understand someone has to do it, or the nightmare realm could escape the cell borders.

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

LibreOffice can do everything Excel can except for BI, so...

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I see very little difference, but I am still more used to pacman compared to brew. It's nice not having to care about hardware, although I haven't had problems with Linux for the last decade, at least (using desktops and old laptops, I'm sure the new fancy ARM ones are a handful).

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Not just unix-like, MacOS is UNIX certified,

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That extends beyond just terminal but completely agree that their stock experience is... not great.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Windows has a really good shell too but it's not about terminal. Both macs and windows are pretty awful dev machines.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

WSL has worked fine for me for the past 4 years.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure but why waste your privilege on "fine". If you have the market power as an employee to pick and choose you shouldn't settle on just fine.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I dont mind windows personally(from a usability standpoint, the spyware aspect worries me). And WSL has not caused me any issues in my dev environment.

[–] Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't understand this. I dislike Apple in many ways, but MacOS is an objectively very solid operating system.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I found macOS difficult to use.

For example, while you can have multiple desktops, each application lives on one of them. So collecting a browser and some terminals on a desktop and then having a different desktop with a browser for another purpose doesn't work.

There are a dozen examples of this, but in the end If your workflow doesn't match the Apple way, then you are out of luck on macOS. It's kind of the opposite of KDE. 😆

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

So collecting a browser and some terminals on a desktop and then having a different desktop with a browser for another purpose doesn't work.

Not sure when the last time you used it was, but this works fine. I regularly have 2 desktops for VS Code, 3 with Chrome instances (across multiple monitors), and 2 with Firefox.

The biggest weakness IMO is that the entire OS is designed around touch gestures. If you want to use a mouse, your experience will just be worse. But even the touch stuff is lacking options, so you have to use third party things like BetterTouchTool.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Big Mac