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There are plenty of smart MAGA. Many have high paying jobs and degrees.
This is because america overwhelmingly places money over anything else. Most of them just call it the economy but America has spent a lot of time teaching its citizens that if the number goes up then whatever is happening is good and moral.
Bombing kids, line goes up. Fuck over your friends, line goes up. Break laws and regulations, line goes up. Violently deport neighbors, line goes up.
I agree with you, but you must know that a high paying job and a degree aren't reliable indicators of intelligence.
Something you need to understand is that a high paying job and a degree do not inherently mean intelligence, especially not in the US and Canada where education is largely for the generationally wealthy and school is designed for memorization and brute-force solutions over learning how to be clever.
Anyone who’s truly intelligent understands that “line goes up” is a ideology what’s dead on arrival. Every single layer of it is a new layer of stupidity, it’s a staggering lack of intelligence.
If you think anything they’re doing is clever and not the incredibly obvious bullshit that it is, I have news for you. We can see everything they’re doing, they only get away with it because we do next to nothing to stop them and because there are a lot of stupid people in the world willing to back them up.
So if all these intelligent people know better, then why do they still participate in the same nonsense system as everyone else?
First off, that response looks like you did not read or understand my comment at all.
Secondly, to be charitable and respond anyway, there just aren’t that many intelligent people in the world. They vote and participate in the system because it’s the right thing to do. What the fuck else are they supposed to, bud? They can’t just separate from the system.
Should we go back and argue on who counts as intelligent? Is that the part I missed?
I said: "A lot of MAGA are intelligent."
You said: "Nuh-uh."
Which part did I miss?
Exactly. I said they weren’t intelligent, and then you said “so if there are all these intelligent people…”
Like, which intelligent people? Who are you talking about?
Reading comprehension seems to be a problem for both of you.
I mean, I can understand each of you pretty easily here, but neither one of you seems to be able to do that.
It's probably just emotions getting in the way, though, I suppose. Sometimes Reddit arguments happen on Lemmy.. wel, more often lately
Honestly I just don't have much else to say. They can disagree with me if they want.
Seriously, you've read this exchange and believe Soup has a reading comprehension issue?
Yeah, ok — you're right that Lemmy definitely has a lot of reddit-brained people.
Much like your point about line goes up, Americans are also taught that high pay and degree equal smart. At the same time know a high paying position can be gained through affiliation, decite, bribery or reputation and a degree can be gained by affiliation, decite, bribery, reputation, or simply being good at memorizing. All of those things can be accomplished by stupid people.
In example, Elon Musk is a ketamine addicted nazi who mails sperm to influencers and is also the richest person alive.
Most people with high paying jobs and degrees didn't vote for Trump if they were smart. Nobody smart thought Trump would be good for the economy.
He was good for the extremely wealthy, but not everyone else's pockets.
It really depends how much your wealth is tied into the "economy". Like I said, even average Americans will make excuses for immoral actions as long as they personally benefit in some way.
Average Americans aren't economicly benefiting from the Trump administration.
The Dow might be up, but probably would be doing better under Harris.
The few "smart" ones are going along for personal gain--they're in on it. The masses of MAGA, though, are literally stupid.
There is a big difference between Intelligence and Critical Thinking. Critical Thinking is how humans are supposed to think, but it takes training and practice to get really good at it. If you aren't introduced to Critical Thinking Skills at an early age, then you substitute a sort of chaotic thinking, that tries to connect dots between known data points, and extrapolates weird conclusions, instead of thinking through the evidence with proper Critical Thinking Skills.
That's how you end up with smart people who make dumb decisions. They have the intelligence to retain knowledge, etc. but if you can't think properly, then you can't apply that knowledge properly. Eventually you end up on a weird path, applying your intelligence to a poorly designed strategy.
Nothing helps citizens resist propaganda like Critical Thinking Skills, which is why Republicans have actively suppressed the teaching of Critical Thinking Skills in schools for decades, because that creates citizens who will listen to the Conservative Propaganda Machine without questioning it. That makes them easy to manipulate, which is the objective of every politician.
Dow Jones : 47,954.74USD -784.67(1.61%)
Line ain't goin' up
Even the 50000 that the Trump administration was trying to praise is underwhelming. The DOW hits record highs under every president, it's the nature of the stock market that in the medium term it goes up.
But it hasn't gone up as fast as we'd expect under a booming economy.
You aren't looking at the right lines.
Lines don't always go up, but a "good" executive can always make it look like it's going up.