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[–] DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 days ago (5 children)

In what way is China currently helping Iran? I assume intelligence and surveillance technology?

I see a lot of the typical bs like this:

I would like to be able to provide a bit of pushback against such narratives

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am reminded of the USSR and it's entrance into open conflict with the Third Reich. Hitler made it very clear that the USSR was the target. The Soviets knew. But they made non-aggression pacts with them to buy time.

Stalin reached out to the Western governments and asked them to join forces against the Nazis but they refused. So the Soviets knew they couldn't rely on anyone else.

And then England broke their non-aggression pact and started fighting against Germany. The USSR didn't join then. They waited. And 18 months later the Nazis attacked.

Well, in those 18 months the Red Army quadrupled in size. That alone should explain it, honestly. The Soviets were just not ready in 1939 to take on the Third Reich.

US intelligence has been saying for some time now that by 2027 China will become unbeatable. If that's to be believed, then it's reasonable to see this as an echo of what happened in WW2. China is actually just not in a position to win yet. They risk too much by acting too early.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As they themselves have stated many times, "China will not fire the first shot, but it will make sure you don't fire a second one."

[–] GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why? Why insist that China takes a role of global police? They themselves are surrounded by a myriad of american military bases drooling to attack China, they can't divest their resources at this time.

Also iran hasn't "collapsed", do not underestimate them.

[–] Chezeng@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Americans are always looking for others to solve their problems. They should do something about their damned government for starters.

[–] Conselheiro@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because they have strategic partnerships with Iran, for a start. I'm less optimistic about China than most on this forum, but this is not an attack on Niger, Burkina Faso or even Cuba and Venezuela, it's a direct attack on what should be a critical military ally that would even have every right to call for Chinese assistance, including within the UN charter. It's depressing this is the most China can offer an ally, and makes me wonder if they would do anything if even the DPRK got attacked at this point. It's not about being world police, it's about mutual self-defence and they should at the very least threaten some diplomatic repercussion or material support of some kind.

But even at that, they're also a permanent member of the Security Council, so if they're gonna pretend the UN has any legitimacy they at least have a global responsibility to do more than this. For what it's worth, South Africa forced the ICC to issue a warrant against Netanyahu and Petro was in US soil calling for US soldiers to disobey orders and create an army to liberate Palestine, so even on the diplomatic front they're lagging behind. 30 Cuban soldiers died defending Maduro, and the DPRK helped defend Kursk. At some point this inaction becomes complacency which, with power to do something, will eventually become complicity. I'm not a Chinese citizen, so I have no say on Chinese foreign policy, but they're proving themselves a lackluster ally, specially comparing to Capitalist Russia. They should at the very least say "we condemn this and are looking into reducing trade with Israel until it shows commitment to peace in the region" or something.

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 day ago

They should at the very least say “we condemn this and are looking into reducing trade with Israel until it shows commitment to peace in the region” or something.

China doesn't like to take "political action" against countries though, in part for neutrality and in part to keep itself open to capitalists investments in China, seeing them as stable.

They did however raise the risk of investing in the colonist entity to the maximum level right after the genocide against Palestinians re-intensified, meaning their companies can't invest there or do any long term deals with them, but we only heard about it recently when a contract couldn't be completed with a Chinese company because they can't invest there. And considering they did it once it's quite possible that a few more countries will be considered riskier to invest in due to the attacks against Iran. Perhaps even the whole of europe included due to rise in prices of fuels.

[–] DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago

Do not misunderstand; I disagree with the picture and used it as an example of something i want to push back against

Not sure if you actually misunderstood me tho.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because China’s going to be the target at some point, and the coalition being disintegrated over the years will not prove to be a good thing

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 days ago

They have nukes tho. Also you think they do not know this?

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 days ago

So far, from what I saw, some advanced anti-air, which seems to be having an effect on slowing down the imperial attacks just by being there, and satellite imagery and perhaps even targeting data as well. So who knows the level of intelligence being supplied.

If there's anything more I don't know. It would be interesting if they got Iran, or Russia, some anti satellite weapons too depending on how things are going.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm far past hoping for any intervention.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Americans are in a much better position to stop their own goverment than China is. Why should China do your job?

[–] Chezeng@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because Americans are waiting for the next election to make a change. LOL

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Comrade Gavin Newsom is going to dismantle each american base abroad amirite

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well I'm not from the USA either, though I agree with your point. But anyway, my thinking is that eventually there's going to be no-one left to stand with China against the great beast.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 22 hours ago

Likely already started, we are just not calling it that yet.

[–] DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago

I never "hoped" for intervention. I always figured that there are valid reasons outside my understanding and, as another user mentioned, China has a lot of US bases surrounding them and therefore they can't directly intervene anyway.

I hope that china can maneuver itself into a position of having the privilege of being able to intervene across the globe.