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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I know a lot of folks in this thread are taking the piss but imagine you are a single mother on a limited / min wage income working 2 jobs and a kid or two to feed. You need food that doesn’t spoil and that you are certain your kids will eat (can’t afford to waste it) and that doesn’t require much if any time to prepare (you don’t have time). This is how you get shopping carts like this.

People posting the Russian borscht or whatever don’t get it, there are people out there that simply can’t spend an hour or whatever cooking.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I mean I get it but when I was a kid it was "shut up and eat what's put in front of you"

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Maybe you don’t want to spend the 20 mins you have with your kid that isn’t getting them ready for bed fighting about broccoli or whatever. My point is free/extremely cheap, easy access to healthy prepared foods is the solution to shopping carts like this not shaming people for their food selections. Hardly anybody over the age of 7 would intentionally choose to eat like this.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Letting your kid eat junk food because you don't want to be the bad guy and make them eat vegetables is really shitty parenting.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is not a binary choice argument. Some aspects of good parenting require privilege that not all families have.

People who have never suffered and struggled don't get it.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't you fucking lecture me like you know me or my family we've known plenty of struggles.

Giving your kid something other than junk food is not a luxury or a privellage it's the absolute bare minimum for being a parent.

Rice and beans is cheaper and healthier than any of the shit in that cart, I know because for years that's what I ate when I couldn't have afforded the garbage in this cart.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Says the jerk lecturing others.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do you have kids? I would have thought the same before becoming a parent but raising kids is really hard particularly without any support networks. Everyone is just trying to do the best they can. I try really hard not to judge other people’s parenting, the only shitty parenting is being absent or abusive imo. Any parenting that raises kids to be happy, healthy and loved is good parenting in my book.

I’ve got plenty of friends who are great parents that feed their kid nothing but buttered pasta and vitamins bc it is all they will eat. There’s no reasoning with a five year old and if you draw a hard line you will both be miserable. You can’t “make” them eat anything, they are individuals with agency.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yea I do have a kid and if it were up to her she'd have bacon or sausage for breakfast chicken noodle soup for lunch and a cheeseburger and French fries for dinner every day. But that would be a terrible diet so she also has to eat her veggies if she wants desert after dinner. It's really not that hard and just giving your kids junk food because you don't want to parent should be child abuse.

If you can't draw a firm line with a 5 year old you're a bad parent. You might both he miserable for a couple minutes until they realize they aren't getting something else so it's eat dinner or be hungry. And it's way better than being miserable for your whole life because you let your kids walk all over you.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I’m gonna disengage here bc this is an emotionally charged topic and I don’t see it going anywhere productive.

[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So buy broccoli and cook it well and if she don't eat you can afford it. What about people who can't afford to scrape nothing into the trash? It's not like most people don't know they should eat healthier. They just can't afford they kid to refuse and pitch a fit, financially or emotionally.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You dont throw it out you tell your kid that's what's for dinner.

If you can't afford to throw something into he trash not sure how that means you can afford to cook an entirely separate meal.

Again, sorry not accepting the argument that it's ok to not parent your kids because it's tough.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

oh no doubt this is a poverty related malnutrition issue

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those are all name brand snacks every one of those items costs as much as a more healthy meal.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah a box/bag of oatmeal would easily be cheaper than that box of cereal, takes three minutes to cook, and would be much healthier than the cereal, even if you need to add a bunch of sugar to it to make it palatable to kids.

This photograph is just a unique situation that seems to occur in industrialised nations with food deserts. Where this kind of food can be made very cheaply, and even the poor have the purchasing power to afford it. These kind of ready made meals and snacks are usually very expensive in South Africa (except for the ramen/two minute noodles, those are always cheap). No way would a poor person here buy some microwave pizza over a bag of rice or pap.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yea that stuff is not cheap here.

If it was all generic brands maybe I'd buy it but this is somebody acymtively spending significantly more money to avoid anything that could be considered a nutrient.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No it’s somebody doing a shitty bit

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Tell that to the dozen people saying it's classist to judge this person.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

This particular cart is a bad bit though bc everything is name brand

[–] CrimsonTankie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

sounds like you had abusive parents

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Making kids eat things other than junk food is abuse"

Jesus fucking christ I thought we peaked with the "homework is authoritarianism" struggle session yesterday

Is anybody on this site over the age of 14?

[–] Smoltech@lemmyunchained.net 2 points 2 years ago

You just going to gloss over the "shut up" part, and assume it's the lack of junk food?

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think so I think I just had tired parents who didn't have time to cook me a separate dinner if I was being fussy

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh, I thought it was a choice between eating nothing and eating what was put in front of you. Which for me meant no dinner on pasta nights.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well no because you would just eat the pasta

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, it makes me gag. I'll eat it out of politeness, but not because I'm hungry

then it would be breakfast the next morning and eventually you would eat the pasta

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds like your parents died young of heart conditions

[–] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everybody forgetting about us "latch-key kids since age 6" gang? smedly-exhausted

A lot of the stuff in that cart can be cooked in a microwave, toaster or oven. Put it in, set the temp/timer, and that's it.

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Pizza roll and bagel bites gang rise up!

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, let's cook like someone with limited money and time then.

1 box pasta, rice, or whatever other starch. 2 cans of veggies, which veggies is a matter of taste. Cheese, whatever they like and isn't too pricey. Optionally meat, if you have room in the budget since we're trying to do this on the cheap. Shop sales since meat is usually the most expensive thing.

Preheat oven. Mix all ingredients and toss in baking dish, either topping with the cheese or mixing the cheese in as well and topping with some breadcrumbs or similar. Bake.

This is filling, cheap to make, holds up for a few days so you can have leftovers, and the actual time you are directly acting to cook it is minimal. Vary each of the parts and you have a distinct dish in the class.

For a variation, use mashed potatoes (even cheap boxed ones), carrots, peas, and ground beef. Swap out the cheese for a jar of gravy and that's Shepard's pie.

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Yup this looks like what i grew up eating, being raised by poor uneducated parents. It’s all still very enticing but i try to not buy this kind of junk too often. Though ice cream is my weakness lmao.