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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 35 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

Christian Nationalism = Nazism.
Calling it Christian Nationalism is just trying to avoid saying Nazism out loud.

But don't worry, like every other branch of fanatic Christians they have a very strong moral codec.
They will only persecute and kill people they don't like, just as described in the bible.

Hitler absolutely used Christianity too, and believed old texts by Martin Luther about the Jews killing Jesus, almost all the shit the Jews were accused of was based on texts by Martin Luther, from when he got old, and was completely deranged.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Hitler absolutely used Christianity too

In case anyone doubts.

NAZI SS belt buckle. Translation of text, "God is with us."

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

They actually believed that not being a Christian was a sin. They also believed that sin could be inherited, and so ALL the Jews had inherited deadly sin from when Jesus was crucified.

Ironically, evidence today tell us that Jesus Christ is a made up character, the church created to make Christianity more personal and easier to understand.
Which explains the complete lack of reliable historical evidence for the existence of a person that if the stories were true, would be the most important person ever.
But instead all we have is from "Christian scripture" which is nothing more than hear say by anonymous authors, and then some pretty obviously falsified history books.

Nothing of the "ancient remains" owned by the catholic church has stood up to scrutiny. Also the search for evidence of the existence of Jesus Christ, is by far and without comparison the most persistent longest ongoing archaeologic search that has ever been undertaken, when the searches of all Cristian institutions like for instance the Catholic Church and the Mormon Church and even government institutions in medieval times are combined. 2000 years of searching, and no evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ has been found!
Occam's Razor clearly dedicates that the logical conclusion is that he never existed as a real person, but is as made up as Harry Potter.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

Hang on, the Prussians were the first ones to issue the "Gott Mit Uns" belt buckle in 1871 and the West German police used it until the 1970's. The fucking Nazis continued the tradition and God was not with the fucks.

[–] hcf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

I like to shorten it to 'Cry-Nazis'. You know, seeing as how they love to cry about everything that so much as mildly offends their hwhite "sensibilities".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Calling it Christian Nationalism is just trying to avoid saying Nazism out loud.

Calling it "Nazis" conjures up very specific images of a foreign government's 1930s fascist party. These are American fascists wrapped up in a very explicitly Christian iconography. You can call them Nazis and people will blink past it, because they don't look like Nazis.

Hitler absolutely used Christianity too

So did FDR. So did Chang Kai-shek. Lincoln and Jefferson both proselytized from office.

But if you want to get to the root of Hitlerism, you'd do better looking at Henry Ford and "The International Jew" than Martin Luther (the OG Protestant). Hitler was a Catholic. He came by antisemitism through the post-WW1 private sector and the old guard aristocracy, which blamed Judaism for the Communist swing of the prior decade.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You can call them Nazis and people will blink past it, because they don't look like Nazis.

Not important… but Bovino absolutely dresses like a Nazis.

And many of the CBP agents have Nazis tats.

More generally… Trump himself was recycling Hitler’s rhetoric in his ‘16 campaigns.

So I do feel that it’s both.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Bovino absolutely dresses like a Nazis.

He dresses like a SWAT officer, which has it's own fascist history.

Trump himself was recycling Hitler’s rhetoric in his ‘16 campaigns.

He was recycling Reagan's rhetoric, right down to the MAGA slogan.

But Americans can't handling hearing that Reagan was a fascist. So liberals have to stretch the truth and claim it was Hitler's

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

just for comparison.

also just for clarification Drumpf is a fucking nazis and the shitty american education on the matter is why so many fail to see it. Even though "make germany great again" wasn't exactly a slogan... it was not an uncommon refrain in hitler's speeches. Sure other politicians used 'make xyz great again', but Trump doesn't sleep with their autobiographical manifesto's next to his bedside.

at best, you could say that he's in good company with Reagan also recycling some of hitler's rhetoric, but it's still recycling hitler's rhetoric. Reagan was an asshole, too.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

just for comparison.

They're both wearing heavy coats in cold weather.

Drumpf is a fucking nazis

He's an American fascist doing American fascism in America. He's a fucking Reagan Democrat. He should be called that, because it's a term Americans clearly understand. Whereas, "Nazi" has become a pejorative for anyone with politics you don't like, with the subtle connotation that you're an evil foreigner.

at best, you could say that he’s in good company with Reagan also recycling some of hitler’s rhetoric

Reagan was emulating Eisenhower, another notorious American fascist.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Uhuh.

I wear a heavy coat in winter.

I don’t wear a heavy great coat with giant lapels and epaulet boards and a baldric strap.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Point is many Christians claim Christianity wasn't part of Nazism and that Hitler wasn't a Christian.
But it was absolutely at the very core of Nazism.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Point is many Christians claim Christianity wasn’t part of Nazism

Many Christians were in the resistance movement. Many Christians were in the death camps. Your Christianity didn't define your political alignment back then any more than it does now.

Anyone claiming Hitler wasn't Catholic is full of shit. He worked hand-in-glove with the sitting Pope and agitated within the German church on explicit anti-communist grounds. But the schism was never religious. It was always economic. Nazism is a policy of ethnic social supremacy, enacted to secure land and capital for a racialized in-group of Teutonic people. Polish Catholics, French Catholics, Dutch Protestants, Ukrainian Orthodox... none of these people were spared.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

That's a moronic statement when Christianity CLEARLY was actively used to form what the Nazi party stood for, and Christianity was also a major element in their propaganda.
That's like saying you can use a gun to kill, but you can also use it to not kill. Well Duh. That doesn't change that the purpose of guns are to kill.
And just because there may be some anecdotal not evil Christians, it doesn't change the fact that Christianity very much is used to do evil, and has been used for that for 2000 years now.

Yes you can be a Christian and be a good person, but you are a good person despite being a Christian, because Christianity definitely doesn't help.
Just look how Christianity is used even today in USA to take away rights from people! This is not very different from how Christianity was used as an excuse to persecute Jews and even mass murdering them in concentration camps during WW2.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My head is still trying to connect Christianity to Nationalism without cancelling out.

The Old Testament? Sure. It's basically a nationalism doctrine for the 12 tribes. But when Christ appears? Nope.

Once again, dude was very much against the values of some modern day "Christians". I think it's funny because the Bible even warns of these people being under influence of Satan or even the Antichrist themself.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

My head is still trying to connect Christianity to Nationalism without cancelling out.

Both are primitive tribal behaviors without reasoning.