I actually don't think Europe is going to this time. Denmark might have, but France cannot without compromising its independent foreign policy, which they won't do because it will threaten their already shaky hegemony on West Africa.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

What will probably happen is that this will further weaken a disunited EU into multiple camps. Many of us have been predicting the EU to fracture within the next 10 years or so, and that might even be a conservative estimation with the way things are going.

[–] a_party_german@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I actually don't think Europe is going to this time.

If Trump really wanted it, he'd just have to say "give us Greenland or no more US energy for you". Europe would be dead in the water.

We are experiencing a very cold winter right, gas storage is as low as it ever was. No more Russian gas, it's the US or bust. And the funniest thing is, this was entirely self-imposed - they got rid of evil Putler gas while saying, "we don't want to be extorted by RuZZia in the future", even though Russia, of course, never did that. Trump the bully just needs to "use energy as a weapon" and it's over, lol.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

That's true of Germany, but if Denmark triggers the mutual defence clause and France (which can probably manage on nuclear and other gas sources like China, Canada, Australia etc) agrees, then the other countries will be dragged in or the EU will shatter. I suspect if the EU doesn't cave they'll need to pivot towards China and renewables supply as well as manage an end to the Ukraine conflict.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

the French already want to use the Anti-Coercison Instrument which on paper has some very serious teeth that could hurt US firms---tripping it could very well spiral this farce out of control