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I wish people would quit saying this. If Trump was a Russian asset, why would he be seizing Russia's shadow fleet and destroying Russia's influence in Venezuela? Why would the CIA continue to give the Ukrainians targeting information and why are American weapons still flowing to Ukraine via European allies?
Trump is not a Russian agent. He is simply America manifest. He is selfish, narcissistic, and always looking to blame other people for his own failings. Putin may have given Trump a little boost because Putin figured the outcome would be beneficial to him overall, and Trump has a weird submissive man-crush on Putin like he does on any other authoritarian who Trump secretly wishes he could be, but in the end he's not helped Putin and now Putin is irrelevant. This has nothing to do with Putin any more. Russia is a fading regional power on its last dying gasps before China takes it over as a client state.
America is doing this of its own volition. They can't blame everything on Putin.
but then americans would have to admit that america's not the savior of the world and they can't accept that.
The fantasy that this is all entirely the fault of outside influence gives everyone a nice, comfortable "out" for not having to get involved or feel like they're not doing enough.
They're not doing enough.
Yeah. I get uncomfortable shades of the "stab in the back" propaganda from interwar Germany, where the Nazis blamed everyone except Germany for World War I. If the Americans can't understand that they've done this to themselves then they're never going to recover from it.
Our problem here is one that has cropped up in history over and over, which is a huge, stable, liberal, comfortable population benefitting from their state's imperialism become aware of a schism in their country's direction, they see two sides:
One side is screaming that the country is collapsing, burning the country's flag, lecturing about human rights.
The other side is declaring glory and success for the mighty Empire, worshipping the flag that keeps everyone safe and comfortable.
We can argue day and night about what events and specific things started the schism and how aware the population was about the atrocities, but at the end of the day, the majority of a comfortable population is always going to veer away from change and accountability, they will always lean towards the nationalists who basically say "You don't need to feel bad or worry, our country is fine, we're all gonna be okay, just go back to work, pay your taxes."
This has happened over and over, and eventually always has the same end. I wish to fuck more of my countrymen would learn about history.
But agent of all the world's reactionary oligarchy. Oil sheiks, pharma tycoons, techbros, and of course Russian mobster oligarchy in both business and politics. What flag they fly doesn't matter, it's all about the money. And power. And the ability to control the rest of humanity as chattel.
All having the desire to create their dystopia, end progressivism and diversity as we know it, and wanting to have their money roam anywhere and spend how much they want while the rest of the impoverished suffer further.
Despite some losses in Ukraine, despite embargoes and boycotts, Putin is still feeling like he's winning in the propaganda war that was very long in the making since Khrushchev, as he used all the skillsets he had as a master spy, and years or even months away from excitedly watching the US collapse in the mire of its own hubris.
edit: Can you stop talking about Trump doing this on his fucking own? Bastard got slotted as a candidate to become Iblis of the world by Roy Cohn, and just happened to dovetail with Russian geopolitical interests, specifically Dugin's concept of Russian world order.
You wanna know who's really gonna win this once the dust settles? China, which I'm sure if their idea of a New World Order prevails based on trade (with strings attached), will have dozens of developing countries and even some developed countries under its fold. And that's not a benevolent setup for the future, just yet another Gilded Age but with Xi Jinping characteristics.
Trump is nobody's agent. He is a demented narcissistic psychopath who craves attention and adulation. Since he has no understanding of love or friendship, the only tools he has at his disposal to get it is power and dominance. He wants to be a "winner", which to him means he needs to make everyone else around him "losers." By hurting them, by degrading them, by taking away their trappings of wealth.
There are other people who try to use Trump, because he's very easy to manipulate when you understand him. He has no principles or standards other than those I described, so there's lots of obvious buttons to press. The problem is that none of those buttons stay pressed. Even if Trump had the mental capacity to remember things from day to day it wouldn't matter to him because no deal or position he holds lasts longer than the moment he thinks of some way to get something "better." Trump can be manipulated in the same manner that a handful of mud can be manipulated. It won't stay in the shape you put it in and it's constantly slipping through your fingers.
Putin may think that he's responsible for Trump's actions, but only by coincidence and never in any sort of long-term strategic sense. And the reason Trump is in charge of America is because the Americans wanted him to be.
They aren’t seizing Russia's fleet, they were seizing Venezuela's fleet, the one carrying hard to refine crude oil. They are more interested in the Exxon and Chevron tankers Ukraine continued bombing. Owe a bank 10 bucks, it’s your problem. Owe a bank a million, it’s their problem. Those countries gave their gold and resources to Russia. Now, when they expect to receive support back, the US is giving them an excuse why they don’t need to as long as they perform a bit of false flag theater they are so accustomed to. Russia gets to double dip when the Russian stooges send the last of their gold deposits and wealth to Russia to retire there.
Russia wants to assist Trump while feigning their part as the “enemy”, yet they always manage to work lockstep in the grand scheme of things. So much so, that I expect that when the US does launch an operation against Greenland, they will try to be sneaky about it yet do it with Russia’s help, likely from one of the detachments claiming to be following one of the shadow fleets.
Russia considers its allies temporary and expendable, they’ve sacrificed theirs in negotiations to cooperate with the US to divide up their direct influence into hemispheres. Russia is specially interested in restoring the old USSR borders, but now just any win will do and they are a willing participant to Trump. Getting rid of competitors and letting go of the political baggage of their allies once exhausted is what they do. The regime puppets have already sent all their gold to Russia to try to secure their retirement within their borders. Russia treats its allies like the US is starting to.
Strictly speaking, Trump is not a Russian asset, he's everything you claim him to be, but he also is quite willing to work with Russia and other criminal elements to get himself ahead. Russia is his ally because they have mutual interests and Russia was never in it to build an empire spanning the globe. Iran was not useful against Israel, they've provided all the support they could to Russia, and now they are becoming too costly to maintain because of all the spheres of influence they are in conflict with. Venezuela still has the same regime, if anything one that is even more of a stooge, both to Russia and the US. Those "captured" shadow fleets are just another form of money exchanging hands.
Dictators usually end up turning on each other, but usually after they've run out of prey to play with and have to deal with their own consequences of their own actions. The US still has plenty of momentum in its drive towards fascism, and they will get more out of treating Russia as a shadow false flag ally that reverting back towards the old democratic world order that would condemn his own country's shift towards a dictatorship.
Destroying the shadow fleet is something the US military is doing, and I'm sure trump is doing everything he can to drag his feet.
Maduro had outlived his usefulness, he was a liability; by having the US seize control it doesn't substantially reduce Russian influence, since Russia now has a much stronger hold over American politicians than back when Venezuela was a vital proxy.
Trump has been bragging about seizing those ships. He's not dragging his feet. You really think Trump wouldn't be raging his head off and firing generals left and right if the US military was doing that stuff against his wishes?
You're delusional. And I say that as a Canadian who has absolutely no love of America. Venezuela was dependent on Russia for its own defense, America isn't.
Stop bursting people's bubbles. It's their personal soap opera.
lmao this kid saw, "Russia if you're listening," the Mueller reporter (did not exonerate), numerous Trump cabinet members imprisoned for speaking to Russian spies, Krasnov and Steele dossier, Trump flying to Moscow in 80s only to within weeks upon return out a full page ad abolishing NATO in 3 major newspapers, saw the hand-delivered letter flown to Moscow by Rand Paul on behalf of Trump; saw numerous GOP Congressmen fly over to Moscow to have private meetings on 4th of July no less.
... And apparently cannot connect the dots lmao.
The Steele dossier was a fake.
Unverified? Yes. Corroborating some of what we already know? Also yes.
Proven fake? Definitely not. That is unless you are to believe the word of Republicans and Trump.
Thats not how the burden of proof works. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Ad Ignorantiam fallacy states otherwise.
"Fake" is itself an assertion requiring evidence, independent from stating neutrality, e.g., "We don't know whether it is true or not."
Also, circular-reasoning fallacy: Who says they're extraordinary claims within the context of what we already know?
What does this even mean?
Ah, and therein lies the problem ladies & gentlemen.
You need a swirlie or something. Stop being a nerd.
I see utterly selfish people taking advantage of each other. I see no "loyalty" beyond the immediate moment.
Shh. The world is black and white.