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Trump cancels meetings with Iranian officials and tells protesters 'help is on its way' https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/trump-cancel-meetings-iranian-officials-tells-protesters-129165750 https://archive.is/H8j0Q Here we go again
Narrator: it wasn’t
They're going to try to assassinate Khamenai
At least he did not build a bomb
Truly the most incomprehensible government in existence, fumble constantly cause they didn’t want to listen to dirty commies, but only use religion to not build a bomb and suppress trivial rights
hey wise guy, who are they going to drop the nuke on?
If I was a protestor I’d certainly be glad that the guy who shipped the IOF the missiles that leveled my grandma’s condo had my back, they’re gonna get so much popular legitimacy from this
No significant movement of military assets tho. So what, they are planning random strikes of civilian infrastructure from submarines?
I'd say the 'civil liberties' groups they've been funding and arming for decades have hijacked a grassroots movement, and are putting some of those resources to use to further their own goals and those of the empire
Just my own speculation, but imo CENTCOM didn't create the whole movement from whole cloth and isn't directly orchestrating every single protest and protestor, but rather like during other colour revolutions there's a nucleus of legitimate grassroots opposition that is astroturfed and commandeered, and then directed towards seizing opportunities and inflaming situations that would benefit the empire
They could fly b2 from satanland and strike government buildings, and iranians probably aren’t considering that possibility as usual
"iranians probably aren’t considering that possibility as usual"
That's usually the narrative after an attack is done the Iran doesn't have the capability to defend against.
They simply can't defend against the B2 bomber unless they know the exact route and some details on the timing.
I mean there is a difference between losing couple of guys and assembling in one place at a known time arranged by someone on the take
Yeah Iran vibes are very bad right now
I strongly doubt the protests will go very far.
For one, the nature of the protests have been spontaneous and sporadic in nature and did not coalesce into rallying behind a credible leader or movement with explicit demands (the Shah family is simply too out of touch for most Iranians to be considered a legitimate leader). Protests of such nature cannot succeed in toppling the government.
However, this does not change the fact that the economic situation in Iran is extremely dire right now. This is not the slow burn from the sanctions for many years - the Iranian economy has been rapidly deteriorating since the 12-day war last June and is heading towards a falling off the cliff situation. If the ruling government cannot do anything to ease the spiraling inflation and the cost of living, then the domestic dissent can only grow.
Most importantly, the US cannot afford to have Iran collapsing into a situation that spirals beyond its control. It has already achieved its goals of pushing Russia and China out of the region. If you go to the nationalist propaganda channels on Russian telegram and Chinese social media, both are placing much blame on the Iranian government (as well as Venezuela’s) while only voicing the minimum boilerplate support on the grounds of US hypocrisy and imperialism. That’s why we can be fairly confident in saying that both Russia and China will not interfere in the Iranian crisis (and Venezuela) this time.
Recall what happened when the US hastily withdrew from Afghanistan back in 2021. The videos that emerged from it became a “last chopper out of Kabul” joke, happening at a pace so rapid that the US was conveniently throwing away a lot of their equipments behind to be freely looted by the Taliban. Many predicted that the Taliban government would let in Chinese and Russian investments, but that did not materialize at all and the cooperation that transpired has been minimal at best.
It’s been 4.5 years and what we’re seeing is the Taliban government very conveniently staying out of its way from causing trouble to the empire’s actions in the region. This could represent a new form of US exerting its imperial control - instead of explicit regime change, it simply has to drive out economic investments from foreign adversaries and the economic pressure will soon lead those extant regimes to come to a compromise with the US.
We may be seeing the same thing happening in Venezuela and Iran. The US simply has to wait. It’s not as if the liberal Iranian government is not open to a negotiation with the US (the IRGC will not, but the economic sanction is already biting on their ruling legitimacy). Raisi would have been more firm against the US, but Pezeshkian seems quite open to a compromise with the US. And that is likely the final outcome we will see with Iran.
Could you show examples of Russia and China blaming Iran.
I don't doubt you. I'm not a Twitter user, and so I haven't been able to find what you are talking about.
I also don’t use Twitter lol, only Russian telegram and various forms of Chinese social media.
Here’s Andrey Medvedev’s telegram post about it (Russia’s premier journalist/propagandist at VGTRK):
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Chinese social media invariably revolves around a few points:
A lot of painting the Iranians as “untrustworthy” partner and will only be a baggage for China down the road. You can verify the incidents above yourself, they are all public news.
Oh sorry I misread telegram as twitter
Yes, the protests are irrelevant now. I’m referring the American pressure
US attacking Iran would really be a watershed moment.
This is not like the charade after the 12 day war, this has really the potential to get REALLY bad.
And my only cope is exactly that, the US does not want to get bogged down in any conflict, that's why they did the relatively symbolic attacks in Iran with it's subsequent Iranian response. And also why the US didn't go for a full invasion of Venezuela: They don't want another forever war.
This has the potential to become exactly that.
Has Syria Assad fall vibes, tbh
IIRC, Syria had every general, commander, and much more bribed to stand down. They tried to take them down for decades and the operation that finally did it took a lot of preparation - and everything fell quickly.
They already had US troops on the ground, and the force that took over already held territory for years.
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This Iran stuff is very ad-hoc and desperate. The starlink stuff left them with sharing tips over Twitter (the internet) as a last ditch effort to get their commands through.
Nah not even close.
This is more great power war vibes.