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is it naïve of me to feel, deep in my bones, that despite how bleak it is now, the Western Bourgeoisie are overplaying their hand (hexbear.net)

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Like, yeah, they can 'get away with' ending soft power. They can 'get away with' extrajudicial killings. They're operating off of pure machismo right now. They're getting drunk on their vices. They're stripping masks where masks wouldn't be advised to be stripped. I feel like I understand now that Fascism is, in part, an expression of weakness. They wouldn't be doing this unless they were scared. It's too volatile. It feels both too late on a power-level and too early on a popular-level. Never mind the ticking time bomb that is AI data centers. It feels like, and I'm sure this is cope, there is a timer on their ability to run the circus much longer.

My first instinct here is to doubt myself, intellectual pessimism and all. In that vein, maybe this is just revolutionary optimism, but we're at the point where it feels like there is a palpable anger brewing in the basement. I don't know. Maybe Palantir works as an anti-communist panopticon and we just death spiral forever. I don't want to lose hope.

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

unlike in the past century when there were strong labor movements and international solidarity, today neoliberalism rules the world and every country is more interested in taking advantage for their own gains than to come together as a cohesive force against Western imperialism. […] the collapse of the Soviet Union and its consequences.

If I try to imagine the 1930s and the buildup of fascism without the Soviet Union… it would look like today. Actually, and more accurately, today looks like the buildup to WW1 which was imperialist escalation par excellence.

The bad thing is that we are maybe / probably headed into a repeat of the previous century. Imperial contradictions reached a fever pitch, and due to poor timing, it became a testing ground for a variety of brand new technologies which made possible the “Industrial Revolution” of death, the most efficient production of murder known hitherto. I’m referring to airplanes, tanks, poison gases, and a lot more.

While no one has a crystal ball to answer whether the Russian Revolution happens without world war 1, I think it did play a big part in the “land and bread” messaging that enabled enough consciousness to overthrow the Russian Empire and pull out of the war. We very well might not have had a USSR without world war 1.

This is quite bleak and I don’t even want to call it a silver lining. But history has shown that it is precisely during the most catastrophic eras that the most revolutionary things occur. I won’t hold my breath for those things to happen in the West - this same history shows that it is more likely to happen in poorer countries. If world war 3 happens, we could see a surge in revolutionary activity around the periphery.