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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I never understood the argument to ban open carry specifically. Isn't it better to know who's packing heat?

if the point of a good guy with a gun is to stop the bad guy with a gun, why would the good guy make himself the first target?

open carry is dumb and has no self defense purpose, it's solely to stroke egos.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a gun owner with a license to carry, though I rarely do.

Open carry bothers me, because it's carrying an implied threat. If I'm carrying (usually because I'm going to the range and think the gun is more likely to be stolen from my car than my hip), I don't want to be carrying a threat. If I accidentally cut someone off in line, I want them to let me know instead of being afraid I'll shoot them. If I'm being unreasonable, I want someone to speak up.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 week ago

The truth remains you're packing heat. Being an unknown "threat" doesn't change that fact. Your argument seems irrational: you want everyone to assume the falsehood that you're not carrying when you are.

I know there's nothing I can do about anyone if they shoot me. That doesn't stop me from approaching police or anyone who may carry a weapon. I know they won't shoot me unless they want a murder conviction.

[–] homes@piefed.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, because it normalizes the very neurological disorders that people who want to open carry have. If you can’t go out in public without displaying a weapon, talk to a shrink.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't know about neurological disorders.

I've read California outlawed it soon after the Black Panthers started openly carrying. Knowing who's packing heat doesn't seem wrong to me. Seems like transparency.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

And the NRA supported it

[–] homes@piefed.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’d rather not have a lot of crazy assholes walking around carrying guns. Whether they’re open carrying or not.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What bearing does that have on open carry? Seems more like an argument to restrict carrying guns altogether.

[–] homes@piefed.world 0 points 1 week ago
[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If open carry is legal then any psycho could commit mass murder at any second, and no cops or anybody could do anything until after they start opening fire. On the other hand, if it is illegal then cops could step in at the first sight of a gun.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

If open carry is legal then any psycho could commit mass murder at any second, and no cops or anybody could do anything until after they start opening fire.

If it was illegal, they'd just conceal it until they started shooting. Pretty sure that's how most attacks already happen.

On the other hand, if it is illegal then cops could step in at the first sight of a gun.

They could, but as above, a shooter would probably have it concealed. Even with legal open carry, a cop should step in as soon as a gun is brandished. But really, when has a cop ever stepped in to prevent a shooting? Even in Uvalde, a whole department full of cops outside a school of children being murdered still did nothing.

(I don't personally have a strong opinion on whether open carry should be legal or illegal. I think we should have stricter requirements for ownership at all.)

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you mistaking being armed with open carry?

if it is illegal then cops could step in at the first sight of a gun.

Wouldn't the concealed carrier open fire immediately or even before exposing their weapon? Are we talking about a split-second difference if any?

[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Most mass shootings are done with a rifle, which is a bit more difficult to conceal. And yeah if everything goes to plan for the shooter and they keep it concealed then it would only be a matter of seconds, but there's always a chance that cops, given the opportunity for guns to be something to be on the lookout for, will be able to step in sooner.