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What a crazy stretch just to avoid answering a simple question.
They answered your question with an implied "yes" and provided relevant additional context by saying that so are all the other states. Their answer would only count as avoiding the question if you had asked something like "Is X more authoritarian than Y?" instead.
Yeah, like:
"Are Nazis bad people?"
"All people are bad"
LMAO
Would you have been satisfied if Jabril said "Yes, every state is authoritarian" instead? What was Jabril supposed to say?
wut
That's ok, you'll get your social credit points nonetheless.
It isn't a stretch, have you studied any leftist theory at all?
The idea that a state is inherently "authoritarian" is an introductory level concept.
The key difference between "tankies" and anarchists is that the former understands you need to change the economic substructure before you can change the super structure and the latter generally thinks what is essentially the opposite.
Lenin, state and revolution
The keyword here is "theory".
Adopting one theory as your one and only point of view, like a religion, is nonsensical.
I refrain from being dragged in such limited perspectives on reality, from politics to science. It's always better to doubt of everything, especially about what people believe blindly.
You mean like dialectical reasoning? Gee, I wonder who applied that, especially to material conditions...
Me when a round earther tries to force their round earth theory on me
Are you saying you believe the earth is flat? Lol and lmao
No I'm saying you are the equivalent of a flat earther, rejecting something because the word "theory" was used. You probably don't wash your hands because "germ theory" is an authoritarian rule being forced on you by the ruling class. You probably float into the air because the theory of gravity is a form of bourgeois oppression
Tell me that you have no clue what the word "theory" means without telling me.
Good lord, don't they teach this stuff in highschool?
No.
What you are thinking of is indoctrination and no, they didn't do that in my highschool.
Instead they taught us about how different theories exist and how each is valid until it is not.
The school you went to should be investigated if it's cranking out weapons-grade morons like you.
I think what chloroken is getting at is "the key word here is 'theory'" sounds like a dismissal in the same vein as "evolution is just a theory." The sense of 'theory' in both "evolutionary theory" and "leftist theory" is the same, and in both cases it's distinct from the colloquial sense. It means "body of conceptual academic work," not "hypothetical belief." In neither case does it imply dogmatism.
"Every state is authoritarian" is a pretty non-controversial claim in leftist political theory of any stripe. Comrade's point was "China is authoritarian" is a non-sequitur from any leftist perspective, because China is a state so of course it is. Anarchist and ML theorists are going to disagree on the implications of that basic observation.
Bingo.
And is also avoiding to say that China and Russia are basically dictatorships, but with extra steps.
Like, as I said, saying all people are bad would be a way to avoid saying that Nazis are bad, but with extra steps.
It's also similar to far righters when asked if they are antifascists and they answer that they are antifascists and anticommunists.
Just different shapes of delusion.
How would you respond if someone criticized Revolutionary Catalonia because marriage/religion/domestic violence still existed inside of it?