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the main complaints i've seen online were that weight loss usage is driving the price up and making it unaffordable for diabetics (clearly an unsolvable problem because healthcare must be an inhumane extractive industry), and fears that hollywood ozempic usage is bringing back the 90s heroin chic shit.
The problem for diabetics goes beyond the pricing of ozempic. The company who makes ozempic is one of the largest producers of insulin in general, and I couldn't get my insulin for three months this year because of how much ozempic they churn out instead of using the resources to make insulin. This happens frequently, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was another shortage coming soon. I was fortunate enough to get some insulin eventually, but it was tight. I have a general hatred for this drug, it feels like a way to cheat yourself into a thinner body while at the same time other people can't get life saving medication, and I find myself frequently hating on people who use it, even though I know it's completely the company's fault.
Cheat is an interesting phrase to use here. Weight loss isn't an atonement for the sin of gluttony. It's a health issue and Ozempic is a potential treatment. What purpose does this judgemental moralizing serve?
No, weight loss isn't a punishment, divine or otherwise. I think it's good if there's easier solutions than having to drag yourself through different methods just to lose a few pounds here and there but never make any progress that makes you happy. But that's not what I was getting at. The problem I have with ozempic is that it's produced with the same resources that insulin is, and in favor of more profit, the company making ozempic had a long-ish shortage on insulin production this year. Ozempic isn't necessary to survive, while insulin very much is. While I don't want to blame people for using it, I find myself doing so in spite of knowing better. I posted to vent my anger at the drug and its producers, but I also wanted to explain that while I know better, I still feel resentful at people for taking ozempic. It's not a logical feeling, and I am very aware of that.
Edit: I saw you edited your comment, so I'd just like to say I agree with the assessment that weight loss isn't supposed to be a punishment for overeating
That’s weird moralizing about weight loss, but also for people with certain conditions like PCOS or other insulin related disorders it’s the only thing that allows weight loss in the first place.
I know it is. I'm angry about the insulin shortage because of ramped up ozempic production, and while that has nothing to do with people needing help with weight loss drugs, I feel resentful seeing people take it while diabetics who need insulin to survive have to ration their medication.
i had no idea it was made from the same precursor stuff as insulin, jfc that's some unfortunate chemistry
capitalism is the fucking best at inventing scarcity where there should be none, competition and resentment where there could easily be comraderie, none of this needs to be happening
I couldn't agree more comrade. That's why I'm so angry at myself too. I know better, but I still fall for the same tricks like everybody else.
The stuff is ludicrously easy and cheap to mass produce, but afaik the company is bottlenecking itself by only selling the product in their specialty injector pens.
Meanwhile less scrupulous individuals (ie it's discussed a lot in bodybuilder communities) can buy years worth of it for pennies on the dollar from Chinese medical labs who are the same ones producing it for places like med spas that also are charging hundreds of dollars for it.
Meanwhile diabetics as well as people with other prescriptions for these drugs (ie obstructive sleep apnea, pcos, insulin resistance) get to deal with the jacked up brand prices and their ✨️insurance providers✨️ denying coverage because of said price gouging
it's like an infinite fractal of satans sitting within satans
For what its worth I have nothing against bodybuilders sourcing their gray market peptides and the facebook wine moms coming to their forums to find the best overseas sources probably know what they're in for wrt the risks.
Since universal healthcare is apparently impossible in the US, the next best case scenario for these drugs is that they get generics and are cheap and abundant and most importantly medical providers are educated about them enough to provide proper guidance to patients wanting to be on them.
If you have family history of thyroid issues, assess your risk profile. If changes in blood sugar have impacted your eyesight in the past, assess your risk profile. If you have/had gastro complications in the past, assess your risk profile.
If you take oral medications, you need to monitor your reactions because the meds can slow your body's absorption of them. This includes birth control
Set a minimum amount of caloric intake to reach, set protein goals as well as resistance training especially if over 50 because muscle loss via weight loss can be a big problem
and for the love of god, if you haven't shit in a week, SEEK MEDICAL CARE IMMEDIATELY
On a semi related note I've seen it being used by some people who struggle with alcohol addiction. They're gonna have to up production in that case
what the hell is ozempic even. a panacea?
Ozempic, and all GLP-1 agonists, are appetite suppressants. They slow digestion, which reduces appetite and can help regulate blood sugar for those with diabetes. Alcohol is quite calorie dense, at 7 calories per gram. So in theory, an appetite suppressant can reduce cravings for alcohol.
This is not medical advice and please consult a medical professional/doctor before taking any new medications.
It’s not just an appetite suppressant, it also changes the way insulin is released and processed and slows digestion.
Thats why it’s really helpful for people with PCOS, it makes their body actually use the food you eat, instead of storing fat no matter what even when you’re only eating 1000 calories a day.
Also incredibly helpful for pre-diabetics and people with type 2. Compounded semaglutide is usually an option from providers, and it is typically way cheaper (to the consumer) than the branded stuff (Ozempic, Wegovy, etc.) while being equally as effective. It doesn't come in fancy plastic auto-injectors with a 10,000% markup, though, so pharma ghouls don't tend to push it as hard.
How does Marmite compare?
The high amount of protein (31g per 100g) and deep unami flavour could help with keeping one's appetite under control.
I've found Marmite toast to be a great hangover and nausea cure back when I used to drink.
Holy shit, that's a lot of protein.
Nah its because the mechanism that its originally been used for seems to be surprisingly effective for several other impulse driven decisions it seems.