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This is also one of my problems with the new dune adaptation, it's visually bland and colourless, when there was so much opportunity to use Islamic, bizanytine and tzarist architecture and clothing as a base for the desings, when the setting is clearly middle eastern/ Caucasus inspired.
Fremen sietches are described as raucously colorful with woven tapestries all over the place to make the cavern interiors more comfortable
They were just fucking empty rooms in the film I was so disappointed. That sterile look was the weakest element of the production design of those films, totally lacking a "lived in" feel.
It's the usual problem afflicting modern media: everything is too clean and new. Star Wars or Alien being grimy were very intentional decisions that took a lot of work to execute naturally on film. Bat-Agamemnon there is coming off of a ten year siege and he looks like he just took the plastic wrap off his comicon cosplay
This is just vibes on my part but I feel like a part of that modern emptiness is not having enough extras onscreen. In Dune there were these huge sets shot in a way that highlighted the emptiness, maybe they thought having fewer people in them made them feel more epic? maybe it's just cheaper. The Atreides are heads of a planet-spanning aristocracy which has no "thinking machines". Surely they'd have attendants everywhere! Fremen sietches, and Arakkeen, should be absolutely bustling.
Blade Runner 2049 is a more open question. The design of LA suggests a huge population density but Earth's ecology is so fucked that surely we have population decline, so many of those apartments should be empty.
If they wanted big crowds the tech exists pretty easily. I'm sure it's part of the cinematic language. Vast empty spaces to underscore how isolated and vulnerable the Atreides are
It's curious, especially when you look at the director's last work, Blade Runner 2049, which was the exact opposite. Everything outside of the Wallace Corp hyperwealthy scenes looked dingy. Sterile areas were dirty and everything looked prefabbed (on purpose).
(I said production design but what I meant was art direction, oops!)
I just checked imdb and Dune (1&2) and BR 2049 had different art directors, set decorators, and costume designers. No idea how the budgets compare but I have to assume they were similar and people just have a hard time deciding how to art direct Dune. With Blade Runner here they had the benefit of being a sequel.
There’s a problem in adapting Dune because the vibe of it is that it’s so far into the future it ends up feeling ancient and alien. If they just hung a bunch of Persian rugs and had Islamic architecture in a more obvious way (like in the movies everything in Arrakis was clearly inspired by Islamic architecture, but in a “brutal” and “alien” way), it would like like Earth and Earth cultures but a couple millennia into the future. But that is not the vibe at all.
I think Dennis captured the vibe of Dune perfectly, as a big big fan of the books 🤷♂️
No, both previous movies did it better. These are decadent space aristocrats, they should look colorful and fancy, even the esthetic of the lunch film does better at this.
The movie is visually boring and does not feel alien at all. It feels lazy and cheap.
I don’t know what to tell you. I read the books before watching either film. And I NEVER imagined anything looking like the David Lynch movie. Not sure what other one you’re referring to.
I imagined things much closer to the Denis movies. Specially the Harkonen side of things, I thought that was amazing.
To me the two Dune movies by Denis are some of the best sci-fi movies ever. But to each their own I guess.
The best adaptation is the 2000 mini series, that's the one closer to the look I want. the lynch movie has it's flaws but at least it's more visually interesting than the new ones, Wich are horrible.
I feel saying they look horrible is quite bold. The movies were universally lauded for looking amazing. Denis is generally loved for his visual language. He is a very visual director.
You might have visualized something different reading the books, but saying the movies look horrible is honestly baffling 😂
Also yeah the 2000 mini series is really great despite the super low budget. Still, it looks very much like* the sci-fi of its era. The Denis Dune movies look at least very unique.