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My European brain can't comprehend the lengths of which Americans are willing to go in order to not actually fix the root cause for gun shootings being an issue at schools.
I wonder how long it would take to round up all* the guns, theoretically speaking.
*ish
I wonder how the last guerilla ground war America was in went.
Now give the guerillas even more weaponry and an absurdly larger landmass to inhabit.
The answer is that it wouldn't be possible.
I fucking love all you non-US folks who think it would be in any way easy.
It will never work.
Because criminals wont give up their guns.
Why would all of us innocent people give up our right to defense while criminals just hide them away when big brother comes knocking? Thats the equivalent of posting online your address, all your belongings, then saying youre going on a trip for a week and you left the door unlocked. Stupid.
The only thing we can do is improve mental health and teach gun safety. A lot of these tragedies happen because gun owners didnt keep them locked up properly. And purchasing them needs to be made more secure.
Exactly. This is a situation where you can't just put the genie back in the bottle. We have no method of collecting all the guns out there from law abiding citizens, much less criminals. We have a military that would quite likely defect if told to use their force to collect the guns from citizens. And like I said, a ground war against the gun owning populace of the US would be absurd and effectively impossible.
People from outside the US keep going "well why don't you have better laws?" like we have no gun control laws. We do. They're dumb as hell, based largely on PR and appearance of the guns rather than anything concrete like how many rounds the weapons can sling per second, and are a constant cat and mouse game in our notoriously slow legistlative process as people enjoy finding workarounds for fun.
And as you bring up, so much of the gun violence incidents are caused by people with mental illness having access to firearms, usually through family members not storing them securely.
Better mental health care. Less negative repurcissions for being diagnosed with issues. Mandatory and better gun safety courses. And life changing fines and/or jail time for the gun owner when it is used in a crime (due to not being properly secured).
Yeah yeah, I know: "'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"
There are ways to prevent this, or to significantly reduce it, but this is a complex issue that's been building for at least 250 years. It's not something so simple that the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because people just aren't trying hard enough.
This narrative that all these complex longstanding problems in the world exist because people are too stupid to see the obvious, simple solution or because they aren't trying hard enough is childish as hell. If the world was even remotely that simple, we'd have a very different reality.
You nailed it.
It'd be great if we could be new Zealand and turn in every gun. But they have a WAY smaller area of land and people lol.
I am always wondering how much of it is a result of the negative social media and phone addiction in young people. I know people always say "this didnt happen when I was a kid" but i feel like its true sometimes. Too lazy to look up the stats.
every time we try those, they get shot down under either making our weapons unable to stop our military (heh like our ar15s could do that anyways) or "shalL NoT bE INFringED"