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I used gen ai for some concept stuff, not as a finished product, but as a muse. I haven’t touched it since the first generation of image gen, so to say what it made for me was nowhere near what I had in mind is a dramatic understatement (boy did it suck with fins!). But it pointed me in the direction I wanted and gave me some additional ideas for what to use for my own work, as well as posture models (I don’t really have art skills as such; that trait largely skipped me in my wildly artistic family, but I’m trying to develop it somewhat cuz I have IDEAS). It helped fuel my idea spark into a creative bonfire.
If I showed you the finished piece (which isn’t done by a long shot, and probably won’t be as good as I imagine it), then the muse concept stuff, you’d be hard pressed to find any real resemblance, other than certain major elements being present, but those elements were what I was asking it to generate in the first place.
I assume that is basically what their art department is doing as well. And for that, it’s actually pretty useful, specifically because it pulls details from many different works, and blends them in potentially novel ways.
I think my, and maybe others, main issues are:
If the training data is the same as the popular image gen ones, then regardless of how it's used I don't support it. If a company is charging for/building a brand on AI tools the artists whose work trained the tools need to be compensated. If they are working with or paying for any of these models I think it supports a business that is stealing from artists.
If you don't know what the training data is, there's no way to know for sure it's not replicating someone else's work in whole or in part in a way that an artist would not. Artists know how to take inspiration and pay homage without stealing, but if they don't actually know the original work that the AI is basing things off of, there's no way to ensure that.
To me it sounds like they’re using generative AI images for inspiration boards, which typically is made from other people’s art. If this is the case, then there’s no more risk of stealing art on accident than usual (I hope they have better practices than Bungie).
What does he think concept art is for?
Feels like people are assuming they're generating images and calling it concept art but there are so many ways an artist could use it in the process of making concept art. A process that starts with pumping out as many minimal-effort concepts as possible... Do you really want to colorize 20 sketches that will likely get scrapped or would you rather stick it in a homebrewed ComfyUI workflow and have a slightly worse version done in 30 seconds?
I know this is the fuck ai community and I do agree with the sentiment but hating on "AI" as a vague idea is a bit ignorant. There are legitimate uses for it, they're just overshadowed by the awful ones getting pushed to us by corporations.