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I didn't mean for this to become a dogpile on you like it did. Sorry for that. But you need to educate yourself on this topic.
I don't think Robert Reiner knew how bad the programs are. He seems like a decent guy. But yes, it is that bad, nearly across the board. Teen corrections is a 50 billion dollar industry in the US. Other countries don't have that kind of cottage industry, and ours is uniquely bad, but also that isn't completely common knowledge yet, or certainly was less known back when he was sent.
Also, Utah and Nevada and states like it are commonly chosen for these things because child abuse protections are/were more lenient in those states. Under 18 years old Gay/trans conversion therapy was still allowed in Nevada until 2017.
Unfortunately this seems like it's typical, with parents never coming to terms with what they put their kids through because they thought it was going to help them. The kids are punished by the people running the program if they don't pretend they're happy and the program is going well, etc.
2020 in Utah, and that by governor executive order after the legislature wouldn't do it. Didn't become actual law to ban conversion therapy on minors in Utah until 2023.
And I really shudder to think what still goes on among the religious population there who think they get their laws from god.