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Libs turning on the US for not being interventionist enough is pretty funny, like at least they're turning on the US I guess?
It's useful to draw a distinction here. American Liberal-Conservatives will always disapprove of Conservative-Liberal leadership and vice-versa. It's like how in the Obama era the Liberal caucus summoned incredible bloodlust towards Libya and Syria - their guy was warchief at the time so war was gucci.
Europeans on the other hand need this as a coping mechanism. The Reactionaries among them will rally against stupid shit like The Globalists because they can't reckon with the fact that Thatcherite and Reaganite Conservative World they live in economically hollowed out Europe together with Britain and the US. The Liberals meanwhile are married to the ongoing war in Ukraine in a way that the Reactionaries aren't, so they have less room for maneuver. Cue a discourse of European Nationalism of ambiguous strength and purchase outside of reddit adjacent spaces. Europeans by and large like the EU and european integration. Nationalist and Fascist politicians always turn flacid towards Brussels for a reason and that reason isn't just the will of the capitalist oligarchy that they are a part of.