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The average American now holds onto their smartphone for 29 months, according to a recent survey by Reviews.org, and that cycle is getting longer. The average was around 22 months in 2016.

While squeezing as much life out of your device as possible may save money in the short run, especially amid widespread fears about the strength of the consumer and job market, it might cost the economy in the long run, especially when device hoarding occurs at the level of corporations.

Research released by the Federal Reserve last month concludes that each additional year companies delay upgrading equipment results in a productivity decline of about one-third of a percent, with investment patterns accounting for approximately 55% of productivity gaps between advanced economies. The good news: businesses in the U.S. are generally quicker to reinvest in replacing aging equipment. The Federal Reserve report shows that if European productivity had matched U.S. investment patterns starting in 2000, the productivity gap between the U.S and European economic heavyweights would have been reduced by 29 percent for the U.K., 35 percent for France, and 101% for Germany.

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[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 216 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Holy shit keeping a device longer than 2 years is "device hoarding" now? Thats fucking nuts.

How do you invest so much money in a device like that and not make it last? I've got one phone I use for work calls thats 10 years old. People are still shocked I dont even have a case on it.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“device hoarding”

The article about generational wealth is right around the corner I'm sure!

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, fuck that. I'll keep my device as long as possible because of course I would! Try for five years.

"Hording"... The fucking nerve to say that... I am actually offended. Whatever happened to "recycle, reduce, reuse"? What could possible be more irresponsible than constantly replacing your devices?

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 59 points 2 days ago

This is blaming consumers for companies not doing a better job at planned obsolescence.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My last phone up until a couple months ago was from 2017, apparently I am just a mega hoarder. Don't look at the pile of miscellaneous bits of tech, the Omnisiah demands I collect the shinnies.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, if I could just upgrade the CPU and replace the battery every once in a while, is still be using a Note 3 or nexus 5. Those first few generations of notes were awesome.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

I still miss my Note 3 and Note 5. I'm using the Note 9 now, and even that is starting to become unbearably slow. Thankfully the battery is still good enough for me, but even Firefox constantly freezing is ridiculous

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

When every single business is slowly getting to the point where they need you to be a consumer whore just to survive, yes.

[–] who@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When you have some free time, you might find it interesting to read about Edward Bernays.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I've always been aware of propaganda, but had never heard of him. Thanks for that. Was an interesting and somewhat horrifying read.

I do everything in my power to avoid ads and develop an informed opinion but there is no escaping the influence of at least some social manipulations. I suppose its easy for me to forget sometimes how much others are influenced by that too.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

...hands up anyone using laptops or desktops older than 15 years?.. ...right here, bitches...lol...

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I got laptops from 2008 and 2013, still work just fine 😁

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

I've got a "refurbished" Dell laptop that's about 15yrs old. Some ex-corp model. 4C/8T, 16" 1900x1200-ish display, Nvidia GPU, 20G RAM, and it's still going strong except for the battery which stopped holding a charge. I could get a new battery but I use the system rarely and just for browsing/email so running it off the AC brick is fine. It's been running Linux Mint for as long as I can remember. My phone is a cheapo model from 2021 and it is also fine. The only reason I might replace it is if the battery tanks like with my other phones (planned obsolescence) or if I finally decide it's mandatory to up my security/privacy game and need a phone that runs GrapheneOS, which means a Pixel. An old used one.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Yup got that too. Flipped it to Bazzite, and setting up an old laptop on Mint now too.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

It's because economists haven't got the memo yet that informs them that smartphones have been recategorized as, "durable goods".